HELL YEA!!!! FINALLY SOMEONE takes him down. look i think Roy Jones is a very good fighter, but i was sick of him always boasting how great he is when he destroying those chumps.
man that blew. i had never seen roy fight but was a big fan for some reason (i guess just from hearing how good he is and seeing a few clips) so i wanted to see just how good he was. and based on how the fight was going, he was the better fighter. he was landing more punches (apparently the official total was 12-7 roy) but he just caught by the one that counted. if this had been a decision match i don't see how tarver was gonna win b/c he wasn't getting anything in. if anything, tarver was lucky he wiffed on the punch that made him lean in and get off that punch to counter roy's. it was such a shock to just see him go down and realize he probably wasn't getting up (it's always weird to see greatness fail). i mean damn the dude was basically undefeated. so did the ref count to 10 or not? on one thing you see KO and the announcers said he counted to 10 but then on espn they have it as a tko. why wouldn't the ref let it go on? i mean roy seemed decent enough right afterwards. this is the big fight of the night. if he gets up and starts taking a whoopin' then call it but calling it as he gets up? let it go on. man this was disappointing. anywhere i can see some old roy fights where he just dominates?
I just read that Jones is talking about moving back up to heavyweight to fight either Jones or Vitali Klitschko. Is the guy insane? He just got knocked silly in the second round by Tarver, and he thinks he can take a punch from two of the hardest punching heavyweights we've seen in awhile?!? Jones is one of the greatest fighters to step foot in the ring, but moving back up to heavyweight would be a horrible move at this point in his career.
I agree, I think it is very bad idea for roy to mess around with his weight so much at this stage of his career.. I think maybe he should just fight tarver one more time, and if he still loses, then call it quit.
Antonio Tarver's left hand out of nowhere stopped Roy Jones Jr. in the second round Saturday night, giving him the light heavyweight title and handing Jones the most crushing defeat of his illustrious career. Tarver had landed only a handful of punches and seemed slow in starting when Jones threw a right hand that missed that caused him to crouch down. Tarver came out of the crouch with a roundhouse left hand that caught Jones flush on the side of his face. Jones was knocked under the ropes in Tarver's corner, and was badly hurt even though he managed to get up at about the count of seven. But he stumbled across the ring as referee Jay Nady waved the fight to an end at 1:41 of the second round. Uhhh... umm. Ya. I'm just gonna go, uh... stand over there now... sh*t! me and my big mouth!
I was watching TNT and JVG was talking when Chales said OMG...I can't believe it...Then he said he was sorry, but RJJr. got knocked out...Everyone wasted their money...Freakin' hilarious...
because spinks was a good fighter...and the punch that sent him down didn't connect well...because he looked up out of the corner of his eye at the ref while he counted him out...and then got up and walked to his corner. because pepsi put out ads before the fight that were of a "fantasy" post-fight conference where tyson supposedly knocked out spinks in the first round...and that happened exactly, with spinks head on the canvas next to a pepsi logo. in total...i just didn't buy it. it certainly added to mike's legacy, as it was his biggest fight to date. as for roy...i smell a rematch!!!
Why do you think Spinks was such a good fighter? He wasn't the only first-round knockout Tyson had ... I'm some of the others were supposed to be 'good fighters' as well. Not sure you can tell how well it connected, unless you were on the receiving end ... if a guy is too scared to fight, there's nothing rigged about that.
spinks was a heavyweight champ. spinks beat holmes. spinks was, in my mind, the best fighter tyson had fought to date. i'm not diminishing mike at all...you know i think he was amazing. but i just never bought it. all of those circumstances in their totality made me a doubter...including the glancing connection...and that was really my first taste of that. it would be affirmed in later fights...particularly questionable judging in a leonard/hearns fight in about 88 or 89. but the tyson/spinks fight was the first one that made me question...and i still don't believe it's legit. glad to know you love pappadeaux, though!!! we should meet there for lunch and just argue over all the things we don't agree on!
Didn't see this fight, but a few comments from a long time boxing fan... Not style, but in terms of impact, Jones always reminded me of Hagler before he met Leonard; dominated most fights, due at least in part to going really long stretches against mopes, but having the ability to come through when pressed against serious contenders. However, long stretches against punch dummies later in your careercan have a seriously detrmintal effect on a boxer's performance level, particularly when it comes to reaction time. RT is bound to slow as you get older, but if you stay in against top competition, you learn to adapt, you counter more, you lean differently, etc. If you're in against guys you can dominate without having to adjust, you're in big trouble when you face anyone who isn't a mope. As to Tyson: 1) Tyson would have detroyed Jones in his prime, it's not even close. Its not just that Tyson was great...he was...but it's a different level, and usually th one fighters find the hardest to climg, on the rare occassion they even try. It's quite likely Tyson would have beaten Jones during his second go around. 2) Tyson is not anywhere near the greatest fighter ever. Ali is number one with a bullet, but Robinson, Lewis, and others were better as well, relative to their times. You have to remember that Tyson dominated...and he did dominate...at just about the weakest time in Heavyweight history, whereas Ali fought in it's golden age. Tyson was an incredible offensive fighter, and underrated but still quite vulnerable defensive fighter, and a guy with physical limitations ( ht/reach, etc.) which he overcame with an aggressive approach based on getting inside. This means he has to be quicker than his opponent, and can't take serious punishment on the way in. Ali would have been way too quick for him, for example, and he'd have been paying to get in all night and finding Ali gone when he got there. ALi had NO WEAKNESSES as a fighter, and combined that with the best natural combination of speed, agility, balance, and power ever seen in a ring. But other guys would have been a problem for Tyson too, though it would have been fun to watch: Foreman/Tyson would have been fun to watch, but I'd give the edge to Big George; Tyson was rattled by some heavy hitters, and he bever faced anything like George in his prime. Probably the best matchup for Tyson would be Norton; a better athlete and pure fighter, but if Tyson got inside, he'd have done some damage. Frazier and he would have been another contrast in stlyes, but I do know that Tyson's "I'm coming right at you!" style would have had little initial efect on Joe. But ALi in his prime againt Tyson in his? I'll give you odds and take Ali 10 times out of 10. Before he had his title taken, he was far and away the best there's ever been. He was just toying with people out there.
Good post MacBeth. Ali is still "The Greatest." When you consider that Ali was sidelined during what would have been his prime fighting years from '67-'70 it makes his accomplishments even more amazing. A lot of folks forget that he lost those years due to his conscientious objector status.
