It's not bad especially when you compare it to the first 3 games. Iim just looking for something to build on. I think the 20 game mark will be a good barometer for us. Before the season started, I was very suprised when numerous posters on here assumed it would be a lock to make the playoffs and even others, predicting that we would be a high playoff seed. Its going to take a while for this team to find its offensive identity and gel. Its also going to take time for Ming to develop, perhaps longer than alot of us originally though. Its going to take time for Rice and Taylor to get back to their "A" games. Its going to take time for Steve and Mobley to adjust to getting others involved on a more consistant basis. Time time time. Reminds me of the great Pink Floyd song ...."Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day" As long as we show steady improvement as the season goes along, im not going to label this season as a failure if we dont win 50 games or make the playoffs.