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Rove resigning

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Aug 13, 2007.

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  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    As a devotee of Banana Republican, I find that comment to be the most baseless and offensive you've ever posted. I shall report you to the mods!

    John Edwards wouldn't be welcome at a B.R. sale rack on friends and family day, nevermind having a seat in the coveted fashion star chamber at headquarters. :mad:
     
  2. mc mark

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  3. SamFisher

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    Didn't this kid get arrested once for stalking his girlfriend and breaking into her house?

    Despite the bush legacy of overachievement, I have my doubts on that one.
     
  4. thacabbage

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    One of the true geniuses in the history of American politics. It's a shame that such brilliance can be used for such evil in preying on the ignorance and stupidity of a (homophobic) populace.
     
  5. mc mark

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    That's Jeb Jr.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    nah you underestimate the degree of corruption, it was this one:

    According to a 1994 Miami-Dade police incident report, Bush was allegedly discovered at 4 A.M. breaking into the home of a former girlfriend, arguing with the girl's father, and later driving his Ford Explorer across the lawn, causing damage. The young woman's father called police but did not press charges.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/georgep1.html
     
  7. pgabriel

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    listen to some of the conservative talk shows, they're saying the same thing
     
  8. SamFisher

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    I really hope Rove signs on to the 08 campaign. He will help make a sure bet even more certain.
     
  9. Deckard

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    I don't see how he can stay out. Rove may take a more low key approach in 2008, compared to his usual efforts, but I can't imagine he'll stay out of it. He'll "sign on" with the nominee, who'll be begging him. Unless, of course, he's up to his neck in legal troubles. One can only hope he will be, and that justice prevails. Time for more than a little additional backbone from the Democratic Congress.



    D&D. Impeach Bush and Cheney. Put Rove in Jail.
     
  10. Mulder

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    Bush isn't running, but change one of the letters and you get what Bush has been doing for the last 7 years.

    RUINING

    the chances that a Republican can win a raise for an office higher than dog catcher

    the relationship with our foreign allies

    the once glorious prestige we had as a nation around the world

    the personal freedoms of the average American citizen

    the way non-believers view sane Christians

    the sanctity of the office of President

    the trust of the American people in their leaders

    the lives of American soldiers and their families

    I could go on and on...
     
  11. Mulder

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    Trader_Jorge is saying the same thing as parrot heads on talk radio? What a shock. :rolleyes:
     
  12. pgabriel

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    no, they're saying that rove was decisive. they say he is a good person trying to get someone elected, but those tatics don't work when trying to compromise and get legislation passed.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Here is the thing
    I think now Rove will goto court. . Lie his *ss off . . .And
    then be pardoned for everything on 12/31/2008

    I think he just lining up to get his Scooter Libby get out of Jail Free Card

    Rocket River
     
  14. jo mama

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    who cares? the guy was overrated and history has already shown him to be a failure whose partisan "win at all costs" style has degraded the political discourse in this country to the lowest levels since probably andrew jackson.

    his two biggest domestic agendas were social security privatization and amnesty for illegals, which both failed.

    if he is such a genius than how did he lose an election to a dead guy?

    plus he looks like a child molester (and a limbaugh clone)
     
  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    rove cutting and running

    Karl Rove should stay.

    The White House confirmed on Monday morning that George W. Bush's master strategist will be leaving Bush's side at the end of August. "I just think it's time," Rove told The Wall Street Journal's Paul Gigot. His reason for bailing on Bush: "There's always something that can keep you here, as much as I'd like to be here, I've got to do this for the sake of my family." At a White House ceremony, Bush issued a brief farewell to Rove, saying little about the man who made Bush president and whom Bush reportedly nicknamed "Turd Blossom" (for Rove's ability to grow flowers in dung). Rove, visibly holding back tears, praised Bush for his "integrity, character and decency." He vowed to be a "fierce and committed advocate [for Bush] on the outside." Neither said anything explicitly about the Iraq war.

    Certainly, a White House aide who has engaged in the sort of political and policy chicanery that Rove has perpetuated ought to lose the right to collect a paycheck from U.S. taxpayers. Take your pick: the Iraq war, Hurricane Katrina, the U.S. attorney scandal, the Valerie Plame leak, inaction on global warming, injecting politics into federal agencies to a new degree, suppressing government science, the stem cell veto, tax cuts for the wealthy, politicizing the war on terror. But leaving is too good for Rove. He was Bush's partner in the Iraq war, yet he (like other Bush aides, including, most recently, Dan Bartlett) are abandoning ship before the fight is done. Rove has argued that the Iraq war is essential for the survival of the United States (that is, for all of our families). So how can he walk away with the war not won?

    In June 2006, Rove gave a speech to New Hampshire Republicans and blasted Democrats for advocating "cutting and running" in Iraq. He said of the Democrats, "They may be with you for the first shots. But they're not going...to be with you for the tough battles." But isn't Rove now doing the same on a personal scale? He is departing the White House when the going in Iraq is as tough as it ever was.

    In an earlier 2006 speech, Rove exclaimed, "America is at war....To retreat before victory has been won would be a reckless act." He was, of course, talking about a military retreat. But look at it this way: Rove helped Bush start a war, and now hundreds of thousands of American GIs (and millions of Iraqi civilians) have no choice but to live with the consequences of that decision. Why should Rove--and not they--be allowed to say, Sorry, now I have to bug out to spend more time with my family? How nice for the Roves that he can walk away from the war.

    When Bush campaigned for president in 2000, he and Rove dubbed their campaign plane Accountability One. The point: we're the responsible ones. But a fundamental principle of accountability is that you clean up the messes you create. Rove is not doing that. He will cash in. Maybe with speeches. Perhaps with a book or some private sector spot. Instead, he ought to volunteer for service with one of the few functioning provincial reconstruction teams in Iraq. Or perhaps he could conduct seminars on basic electoral skills for tribal leaders in southeastern Afghanistan. (Lesson No. 2: How To Demonize Your Enemy.) If overseas travel would place too much of a burden on his family, he could help clean up a neighborhood in New Orleans.

    In The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote of Tom and Daisy, "They were careless people...they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back to their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made." Rove is certainly more careful than Fitzgerald's characters--careful when it comes to politics and doing whatever is necessary to win. But with Bush, he recklessly steered this country into a debacle in Iraq that has caused the death of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians and that has ruined the United States' reputation abroad. Bush, Rove, Dick Cheney and the rest did so with little understanding and with insufficient planning, and they sold the war to the public with bad information and blatant misrepresentations. (Rove was part of the White House Iraq Group that devised the prewar messaging.) Rove deserves not reward but punishment. A fitting sentence would be for Rove to stay to the bitter end so he can sweep up the turds he is now leaving behind.
     
  16. adoo

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    Since W's brain has resigned, what we have left is a lame-brain president !
     
  17. updawg

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    Talk about delusional….

    When asked about the House Democratic leadership, Rove said: “This last election was a very close election, and I think they misread the results. They think they’ve got some mandate to raise taxes and blow up the budget. It’s just unbelievably out of touch with reality.”

    “The Democrats have a problem with national security,” the White House senior adviser said. “Too many Democratic leaders are opposing policies that will lead to America’s success in the Middle East.”

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5392.html
     
  18. mc mark

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    Can we please have a moment of silence and celebration?

    Today is turd blossom's last day on the job!
     
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    http://www.theonion.com/content/news/heartbroken_bush_runs_after_0

    Heartbroken Bush Runs After Departing Rove's Car

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    WASHINGTON, DC—A confused President Bush broke free from the restraint of Secret Service agents this morning and ran in pursuit of departing deputy chief of staff Karl Rove's car for several blocks down Pennsylvania Avenue before being outdistanced by the vehicle.

    "Why can't I go with him?" Bush tearfully asked advisers as the longtime Republican strategist's sedan disappeared over the horizon. "When is he coming back?"

    White House staff were deeply moved by the scene, saying that despite their best efforts, no one was able to explain to the president that he would no longer be able to remain at his chief adviser's side. Onlookers were clearly choked up as a tearful Rove, trying to close the car door behind him, told Bush in a stern, commanding tone to back away.

    "Go on…you hear me? Get out of here, I say!" Rove said. "I don't love you anymore, understand? Now get! Get!"

    Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice witnessed the emotionally charged moment. "We knew that deep down [Rove] still cared, that he was only pretending to be mad at the president," she said. "But he had no choice. Leaving was the only way to avoid the ongoing Congressional inquiries."

    Rove reportedly tried to prepare Bush for this inevitability in late July by taking him on a special fishing trip so they could spend some quality time together and he could also give Bush a brief rundown on how the presidency works. Rove said he "didn't have the heart" to break the news to the president, who fell asleep in their rowboat with the fishing pole still in his hands. On his last day, nearly two weeks later, Rove spent the whole morning with Bush before the tear-jerking exit, ruffling his hair, telling him to "be brave" and "listen to Cheney," and explaining that he was going to have to be "the man of the White House now."

    Though Rove's resignation had been imminent for weeks, Bush appeared oblivious to the situation, which is evident in photos of him smiling as if nothing were wrong until the moment he discovered several suitcases near one of the West Wing's back-door exits. According to high-level administration sources, Bush asked Rove, "Where are we going?"

    While sneaking the departing official out to a waiting town car, Secret Service agents were briefly able to deceive Bush by telling him Rove was just running down to the cellar to get him some ice cream. But when Bush heard the car's engine start in the driveway, he burst outside to stop Rove.

    "I'll never forget the sight of the president, watching Rove's face in the back window becoming smaller and smaller as the car pulled away forever," Rice said.

    The president continued to ask about his former adviser throughout the day, often clutching Rove's day planner, dialing his extension, and blinking uncomprehendingly when told that Rove was never coming back.

    White House press secretary Tony Snow was finally called in to attempt to convey the reality of the situation to the president, but he was unable to do so.

    "He kept looking up at me with those wide, innocent eyes, and I didn't know what to say," Snow told reporters. "Maybe someday when he's older, he'll understand how the public lost trust in his big buddy after a series of crucial political missteps, and how firing those attorneys and the..."

    At this point in the briefing Snow fell silent, overcome with emotion, and moving many in the press room to tears.

    White House officials say they would like to give President Bush more time to process the loss before pressuring him to appoint a new deputy chief of staff, since he does not yet appear ready to confront the concept of a "new Rove."

    Bush sits in disbelief as his longtime buddy disappears forever and ever and ever.

    Rove was finally able to leave the White House, despite Bush's heartrending stalling tactics.
     

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