wut's wrong with Kobe in the second half??it seems like he's too scared to shoot the ball,but y??how de hell the best scorer in the league only had 2 shots in the third q
Kobe pretty much just stated the things I had been trying to say. In the Press conference he talked about how the Lakers were only going to win with better defense. And that his teammates played better defense when they were involved and had their confidence going on the offensive end. Kobe also said that was why he didn't shoot that much in the second half, because he wanted to get his teammates going, because that was the only way they were going to win. 1. Teammates play better defense when they are involved offensively 2. The way for the Lakers to have a chance to win was to have everyone involved in the offense. I don't like Kobe but I agree with him.
LOL, EJ just showed the largest blow-out in playoffs history. Rockets is right there on the top. That is why I hate Mavs and Suns.
Eddie House was an ok player before and an ok player now. Tim Thomas was a guy who the Bucks gave a massive contract to years ago. He's been hot and cold his entire career. Richardson had a better season with the Clips 2 years agon than last year with the Suns. This year he missed half the season with the dysfunctional Knicks due to injury. I don't think Nash had much to do with his medical condition Diaw is a young player getting better. I don't know what he showed in Atlanta but I don't think he was exactly a salvage project. They gained Diaw, and Barbosa found his 3 point shot. I'd give more credit to Colangelo for getting good players on the cheap, like stealing Joe Johnson from the celtics a few years ago, then skillfully managing to turn him into Diaw when he got too expensive.
I like it when players stand up to the man by winning the game, or a dunk in a defenders face. Bell received some slappy elbows by Kobe. One was definitely intentional, and one was definitely not. If Bell can't handle that, then he is in the wrong profession. I like to see Kobe get his, but seeing him get it the wrong way doesn't make Kobe look bad, it makes Bell look bad. There is never reason to go after someone like Bell did. There are other ways to show Kobe up. A hard foul is one thing, but that kind of cheap shot to a guy who hadn't given those kind of cheap shots is ridiculous. Kobe had given an elbow, but nothing to the extent that Bell did to Kobe. Bell should have been the better man. He wasn't.
Good, then you won't have a problem with Nash winning it... To use your own standard of "this is why Kobe is the real MVP", I will tell you after this series "this is why Nash is the MVP". LOL! Hey, smartie, I never said he WAS Magic, I was just using Magic's seemingly unimpressive scoring average over his career to make a point. Nash has been a very late comer to the party, but his past history should have absolutely ZERO impact on the decision as to whether or not he's the MVP of this season. MVP voting is done based on the immediate season, not for 'past' performance. BTW, just to put your mind at ease, I took issue with Nash winning it last season, I thought Shaq should've won it, so you certainly could make a stronger case there and I might be with you on that one. As for this season? Half way through the season I had made up my mind that Nash was the MVP, I thought it was clear that he was the most impactful player in the league during the regular season as far as having the most impact on the success of his team. You can't argue with a straight face that ANYONE expected this Suns team to amount to anything with Amare out for the entire season, losing JJ and Q, and inserting household names the like of Boris Diaw, Eddie House, and Kurt Thomas into the rotation. If you say that you did, you're a bold-faced liar. No you can't, so get over it! LOL! Now that your argument for Kobe failed, you bring up Lebron? During the regular season yes, ABSOLUTELY Nash did a more impressive job than Lebron did. Lebron had Big Z and Larry Hughes and a deep rotation, and he's in the East, and still his team didn't do better than the Suns. Lebron will win more than a few trophies on his way throughout his career, so I wouldn't feel sorry for him just yet. Again, history has NOTHING to do with MVP voting. It would be incredibly unfair and unjust to use the past as a reason to NOT give ANY player (be it Nash or not) the MVP trophy. If this is part of your argument, then it's futher evidence that you simply disdain the fact that Nash has two MVP trophies and that you're not fair-minded in your assessment, you're just trying to protect some 'historical integrity' that is NOT part of the MVP process (at least officially). Again, you're reaching and diluting your entire argument by talking about College Football...WTF does that have to do with the NBA and the MVP trophy? I guess you're running out of arguments and just 'ranting' at this point...have at it! EDIT: It's official! Steve Nash has just been confirmed to have won the MVP trophy according to ESPN, I guess the league wanted to wait until the Lakers/Suns series was over.
Chokie Bryant (double meaning now) was absent in the 2nd half of game 7. That's not an MVP... that's a pouting quitter.
Damm it feels good to be right! All you Kobe and Fakers lovers, I think you showed your true colors. Man I hate the Fakers but what I hate even more are the closet Faker fans who come out the woodwork to cheer for them when they are doing decent and being hyped by the media but pretend to be rox fans. Ugh!
Who the hell said it would be sweet if the Lakers were to lose by 40 points like the Rockets did after being up 3-1 in the series? Whoever did was almost on the money.
What a HUGE humble pie for those arrogant laker fans and their God Saint Kobe "pompous" Bryant. Didnt they like to insult T-mac 19 straight losses with the Magic? Saint Kobe immediately finished 2-19 with the lakers w/o Shaq, arguably the MDE player. Didnt they like to insult T-mac choking in the series against Pistons with 3-1 up? Saint Kobe immediately choked in the series against Suns with 3-1 up. Didnt they like to insult T-mac never getting out of first round? Saint Kobe has yet to succeed w/o shaq, arguably the MDE player. Now Laker fans can go and jump off the bridge. What a nice day!!!
LOL! I have to hand it to you, you called it. As for pgabriel, he isn't really a Lakers/Kobe lover as much as he despises any and everything Tracy McGrady. At least there he's consistent...
hers's a fun little fact about the lakers after kobe and odom and suns after nash and marion. the 3 other lakers starters combined scoring average from last season was 13.2 (parker 3, walton 3.2, kwame 7.0) raja bell by himself averaged 12.3. and i'm not even sure it's fair to count smush as 3.0 considering he was out of the league most of the season and only played 16 games. i think the combined top 6 scorers other than the big two adds up to 47 for the suns and 30 for the lakers. and the thing about the suns guys is their 3 pt %'s. only diaw, who isn't a 3 pt shooter, was below 37%. 3 of the other 5 either shot 40% last year or have basically averaged 40+% for the careers. they didn't just learn to shoot overnight.
do you mean i root for the lakers? b/c yeah i have all season and i obviously have in this series. if you're trying to imply i'm a lakers fan over the rockets then obviously i assume you're kidding. unless i rooted for the rockets for 15 years and logged onto this site 5 years ago all as a cover to wait for this series.
what is your response to the stats? i realize stats are somewhat esoteric in that you can't see a guys PER while you're watching the game, but they are real. they say nash did not even compare to kobe and lebron. or dirk, who actually won PER (thought it was basically a 3-way tie b/t him, kobe, and lebron). maybe you just like winning. dirk, kobe and lebron have nash beaten on player wins and win shares. lebron and dirk were alternately 1 and 2 in each, which actually makes kobe's case look worse. i didn't know the stats when i picked, but i picked lebron for mvp and those stats make me feel even better about it. true, and nash wasn't the best. of coures, in reality, it's not done on this season. it's often been about taking your turn. jordan could have like 8 or 9, hakeem should have 2 minimum, shaq should have more than 1 if it's all about the current season. based on the past history of the voting, nash should've never gotten #2. i guess it makes perfect sense that i thought nash should get it last year (we just can't agree ). but that just shows how truly pathetic the competition was last year that a 15/11 guy got the award and was battling a 22/10 for it. i admit they did better than i thought they would, but i didn't realize boris diaw was this good (and steve nash is not why he got 6 apg this year). i also didn't think the lakers would win 45. i picked lebron for mvp. kobe was 2nd for me. not by any reasonable statistical measure. unless all the statisticians just hate nash and come up with stats to make him look bad that still seem to rank most of the top guys at the top, then i have to think the stats say lebron is better. i'll feel sorry for him if i think he should've won an mvp and didn't get it. assuming future success isn't a good reason to deny him of it now. you pointed out it was a landslide and i was in the minority. bush winning was a landslide and i was in the minority. it turned out the majority was quite wrong. i'm saying it could happen again.
The only reason the majority was shown to be wrong was that they got to go head to head and the 2nd place guy dominated. Here, when they went head to head, Nash dominated - his team won and he controlled the tempo and flow of the games, which is what makes him such a great player. What makes Kobe great is his ability to score, and he didn't even perform to his season averages against a terrible defensive team. Head to head did nothing to show that Kobe deserved it over Nash.
This game reminded me so much of Game 7 last year between the Rockets and Mavs. So much excitement and anticipation only to end in a blowout loss.
