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  1. Harrisment

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    What an awesome game. I'm happy for Mack....this was a big win for him and the program.
     
  2. ROXTXIA

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    As an alumnus of the University of Iowa, I would have to say, the Rose Bowl was the second best college football game of the day, and one of the two best I have seen in years.

    Great bowl games today. Texas wins despite its play-calling.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    it must be nice to be dusty mangum right about now.. he can get any piece of tail he wants in austin :cool:
     
  4. RunninRaven

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    You know, I don't give a damn about college football. Never have, probably never will. But I watched this entire game because of Vince Young. That guy is absolutely extraordinary.
     
  5. steddinotayto

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    it was like watching Mike Vick at Virginia all over again
     
  6. francis 4 prez

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    what's wrong with that? you shouldn't win it on one performance, but damn, if 193 yards and 4 TD's on the ground and a solid game in the air, while essentially single-handedly carrying and willing your team to victory in the Rose Bowl doesn't get you on the short list to open next year, then what does? and starting on that short list can be very important as far as getting the campaign off the ground. how many people would you put above young?

    he's a 1000/1000 qb on an 11-1 team and he's coming back next year and he just tore up the rose bowl, that's heisman material.


    as for the game, WOW!!!! the only reason i clung to hope at 31-21 was that i had watched this team come back all year. down 35-7, no problem. down 10 with 4 minutes to go to kansas, no problem. so down 10 with a whole quarter left was doable. plus vince young was on my team, and vince young just wins.

    michigan clearly wanted to stop benson. he was met by 2 guys around the line of scrimmage damn near every play. i don't call this not coming up big in a big game. he got nailed on every play and drug guys 2 or 3 yards as often as possible. and that's the beauty of having vince and benson in the back field. they went all out to stop benson, and forgot to stop vince, and he tore them a new one. he was so free on his runs, especially to the outside, it was incredible. for my money, i'd always let ced beat me and not vince. of course, there's nothing you can do when you have the guys and he breaks away to complete a pass to the 11, then a few plays later looks to be wrapped up at the 15, breaks the tackle, then jukes about 3 guys on his way to the endzone.

    what an amazing game and what an important game. 11-1 and rose bowl champions versus 10-2 and right back where we've always been. we'll finish 4th at least with cal's loss and maybe be able to pass one of the top 3 depending on how they lose, if they lose.

    that kick had me sweating bullets as it just kept drifting but damn it was sweet once it went in.

    what a game.
     
  7. triplet

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    Michigan defense is awful verus any moble QB. In November they made Troy Smith a start in Columbus and today Vince Young looked like better than Vick.

    The wolverines definitely didn't represent Big 10 well. They had been doing that for 3 years in a row. Shame on them.
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    16/28

    183 yards

    1 TD 1 INT

    I think those stats are a little more average than solid.

    It will be interesting to see if Vince can pull off the same scampers next year.. he had some excellent protection out there. Any significant losses on the horizon?
     
  9. steddinotayto

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    benson is a senior if i'm not mistaken. it'll be a blow to the program but if the receiving corp improves, it shouldn't be THAT much of a loss
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    Yeah, the threat of Benson really helps keep linebackers stacked in the middle so Vince can cut it outside.

    Any guys on the line or in the recieving corp leaving?
     
  11. Manny Ramirez

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    Uh, Vick played at Virginia Tech, not Virginia.

    But yea, Vince Young is a pretty special player. Michigan played their hearts out but VY was too much for them to overcome.

    However, I have a question for the Longhorn fans on this board: what did y'all think about Mack Brown's ridiculous 10 year contract extension and raise?

    I know that Texas has a long and storied tradition as well as always one of the best recruiting classes year after year, but what has Mack actually done to deserve such a generous extension? I know at the University of Miami that if you lose 2 games, many times 1, the season was a disappointing one. I can gather that it is the same way with Oklahoma as well as Florida and now programs like LSU and Auburn.

    And yes Mack deserves credit for getting to a BCS game and winning it (although on paper, the game should have not been that close). But until he ends the losing streak against OU, I don't understand why he got that extension. It is like DeLoss Dodds thinks that Mack is such a "hot commodity" and would be snatched up for the first available NFL job. Is there anyone else out there that thinks like me that Dodds has highly overrated Mack?
     
  12. Dubious

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    Texas red****ed almost their whole recruiting class last year (except Sweed) ; that class is loaded with 4 top WR's.

    Benson is good but , Jamaal Charles will probably start as a freshman and should have a similar career to Benson.
     
  13. BrianKagy

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    Well, the first thing I thought was, what the heck is Manny talking about? Because it wasn't a 10-year extension, it was a ten-year contract. It replaced his existing contract, which had something like six or seven years remaining on it.

    I look at it like this: in the current college football climate, it was a stroke of genius. We can afford it, and we can afford to buy it out. We force certain other schools (hint, A&M) to make a similar commitment to a coach without the same success. It's win-win all the way around. It wasn't necessary and given five straight losses to OU, I hope it included some language regarding Greg Davis's fate should there be a sixth straight loss to OU.

    Which there won't.

    And anyone that thinks a 1K/1K quarterback who runs for 192 yards and 4 TDs in the Rose Bowl and beats Michigan isn't going to be on the following year's Heisman short list either has some biases to overcome, or is talking about a senior.

    I thought the Rose Bowl was better than the Citrus (grr, Capital One) Bowl just because it was more consistent. The Citrus had a more dramatic ending, but the overall play wasn't as outstanding as what we saw from Michigan and Texas.
     
  14. Manny Ramirez

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    Well, Brian, I thought Mack was already under contract and was given the extension but it is all semantics anyway.

    Nonetheless, what are your thoughts on him as a coach? You think that he is overrated by DeLoss Dodds?
     
  15. steddinotayto

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    wow i look like a dumbass. I knew that didn't look right. :D

    as for the Mack Q: every year, I feel that he gets a chance to redeem himself at the Red River Shootout and every year, he fails. Is it that his psyche is shot, Stoops is a better coach (i dont' want to believe), etc etc? But all I know is, I feel he shouldn't have been given an extension without at least 1 OU victory under his belt. He can't complain that he doesn't have the players either since UT always brings in a top flight recruiting class.

    winning the Rose Bowl sure certainly gave us reason to think he deserves such a long extension. But no one plays for 3rd, 4th, or 5th place do they?
     
  16. BrianKagy

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    Manny, I did a stealth edit; see my previous post re: my thoughts on the new contract.

    And it's not semantics. If you're under contract for seven years and I tear up that contract and give you a brand-new ten-year contract, I have extended my obligation to employ you by three years total. If you're under contract for seven years and I extend your contract by 10 years, you're now under contract for 17 years.

    That's pretty significant.
     
  17. francis 4 prez

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    yep, even though it drained me, i'd have to think looking at this as an impartial, no rooting interest fan, our game had more highlight reel material, with a great back and forth feel to it. and while you can't beat a 56 yd td as time expires, a game winning fg as time expires isn't too bad.
     
  18. ima_drummer2k

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    *cough* DonnyMost*cough*

    I didn't go to UT but I'm a slightly above casual fan of the football team because I think there's something wrong with the fact that a Texas school hasn't won a NC since 1969 when we have the best high school talent in the country. I pull for Texas because they seem to have the best chance at doing it in the near future.

    I think Vince has to be on the watch list because he carried the team this year. Sure his throwing stats aren't that great but who has he had to throw it to this year? Tony Jeffrey? Come on. You can only throw to the tight end(s) so much and expect to have great passing stats.
     
  19. francis 4 prez

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    if Dodds is giving him this extension and raise because he thinks he's just that damn good at coaching, then yes.

    if Dodds is giving him this extension and raise because we don't know what to do with all the cash the football program brings in under mack brown, then no.

    from what i gather (since i only started going to UT 5 years ago), sellouts weren't a given in the years before mack. selling merchandise like crazy wasn't. fans being enormously interested in the program (even if it just means being pissed off, it beats apathy) like they are now. mack turned this thing around on the field, and off of it, and he's probably being rewarded more for the off the field stuff (read: $$$) right now by Dodds in the hopes that the on the field stuff (such as rose bowl wins and hopefully an MNC one day) will follow.
     
  20. Faos

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    Do the "experts" still think Young can't make it as a qb in the NFL?
     

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