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Rookie Power Ranking: Stats, then Vote

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DavidS, Apr 15, 2003.

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Who will be ROY?

  1. Yao

    295 vote(s)
    77.4%
  2. Amare

    21 vote(s)
    5.5%
  3. Co-Rookies

    65 vote(s)
    17.1%
  1. MFW2310

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    1. You don't understand about exaggerations
    2. You obviously can't f*ckin' read, I said there CAN be 50 people btw 2 FG%

    Btw, TMan, where's my answer? Where are all those polls that claimed Amare was leading until Yao/Htown fans took over? I love it when you conviniently left that answer out. So who should do more research? Still waiting...
     
  2. MFW2310

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    Word, but I don't think we deserve the playoffs this year. Besides, watching Mr. Mean coach us in the playoffs might take 2 years each off our collective life span.
     
  3. RocketGuy3

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    Regardless of how strongly some people may feel about it (and even because of it), I feel about 90% sure that these guys will get co-ROY. Picking either one individually seems like it would upset a lot of people, and that's never something the league wants on its hands... Plus, I think co-ROY would be the best decision anyways, personally.
     
  4. BubbaMac

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    That wouldn't have been us. If we played the Spurs, it would have been painful to watch.
     
  5. DavidS

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    Well, the good thing that all 8th seeds enjoy is NO PRESSURE to WIN.

    Not really.

    They just go out and give it their all, but really don't have to worry about "protecting" or "justifying" their seed placement.

    It's a lot easier for the Suns to win 3 games in a row, than it is to win one, lose one, win one, lose one...etc...

    Just wait until the Spurs win a game.
     
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  7. DavidS

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    It angers me that merely getting into the playoffs can change the opinion of who gets the ROY!

    I mean, ONE game (to get into the playoffs) made the difference!

    Since when should the ROY be dictated by the supporting cast of a team?

    What they are saying is that because Marbury and Marrion played better than Francis and Mobley, then Amare gets the ROY.

    That's a crock!

    What's worse, is that Yao is not in the playoffs to score/rebound and make his mark. He'd be scoring and causing havoc too!

    It's Rookie of the Year. Not the "Year," and playoffs too! If that was true, then no rookie should make the ROY if he doesn't make the playoffs too.
     
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  8. Newgirl

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    Those East coast voters were really stupid too.

    If Yao played for the Heat, that's no doubt that he would be the best player on a team winning more than 25 games. And Yao didn't play the game the right way? Yao didn't have the pressure and smile?

    And yeah you voted for Caron just because he's out East right? :rolleyes:
     
  9. terra

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    Take easy. You just need substitute Stoudemire, Suns with Yao, Rockets in the following sentences, which is from LATIME.COM.


    Rookie of the year -- 1. Yao, Rockets. He and Stoudemire had almost identical numbers, but Yao had all the pressure and carried it as gracefully as you please. 2. Stoudemire, Suns. What do they care if he doesn't win some silly award? They have a player they can build around for 15 years. 3. Butler, Miami. Scored more points than Yao or Stoudemire because he was on a team going nowhere. Good player but not in their class.

    Probable winner -- Yao.
     
  10. Newgirl

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    Yeah ask those GMs which they would rather build around for 15 years, Yao or Amare. I bet 28 would say Yao while the only exception choosing Amare would be the Suns GM who is lying.

    We Rockets gladly have that player who we can build around to many championships in the future AND the "silly award" too. :D
     
  11. Sane

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    This winning thing is overrated. Don't forget that the Suns won ONE single game more than the Rockets. Also, don't forget that Yao got the Rockets more wins than Amare got the Suns. Amare is 3rd string behind Marbury and Marion, and probably tied with Penny.

    Ming was right there with Steve, winning games for us regularly.
     
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    This is true...! This is SOoOOo True...

    If you weren't a true Rockets' fan, I don't know what you arek, WizKid83.

    If it ain't a co-rookie shared by both, I'd take Yao over Amare.
    YAO all the way.
     
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    Amare has a horrible game tonight. It'd be interesting to see what reasoning T-man would come up to put down on the chinese rookie this time.
     
  14. SoSoDef76

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    I think Yao should win ROY too for all the reasons described in this forum. However, I have my doubts because I've seen so many voters say they voted for Amare. Even Bill Walton, who has been praising Yao from the beginning, has voted for Amare.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/columns/walton_bill/1542309.html
     
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    walton has no credibility, this is ridiculous. look at his awards...

    omg, just look at his all nba teams.....terrible. nash 2nd all nba over kidd in 3rd all nba? no marbury or francis? pf, hes got ben wallace at pf on 3rd all nba with divac as center on 2nd all nba. amare...as pf all nba 3rd, no hint of J. o'neal, Karla, no payton
     
  16. Easy

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    T-man,

    I didn't check back to this thread until now. So sorry for the late reply. I think you didn't get the point about efficiency. It's not just about missing how many shots. It's about at least two things.

    1. Lower fg% means wasting more possessions. I agree that doesn't look very much. But if it translate to about 1 possession per game AVERAGE, then it's very much. There were 14 games this season for the Rockets that were 2 or less points difference at the end of regulation. Assuming that's a typical number. An extra possession a game could mean the difference of 7 extra wins for a season. That's a lot!

    2. Efficiency also indicate good decisions. That cannot be measured by crunching numbers alone. Why do you think people keep bashing Steve Francis about his ast/TO ratio? That's because it translates into Francis' poor decision making and poor on-court awareness. Better efficiency means that you make your teammates better. It means that you don't rob scoring opportunities from your team.

    And you said "ALL post players are ganged up on"? You are kidding, aren't you? There are only a handful of post players who commands "ganging on" constantly, before they receive the ball. Yao is one of them. Amare is not.
     
  17. DavidS

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    It's all about "what have you done for me lately."

    Since they are seeing Amare in the playoffs, they make that as the basis for Amare getting ROY over Yao.

    It's silly.

    Walton has always been a bandwagon jerk!

    He'll vote for Amare for ROY. Then next year he'll be all buddy-buddy with Yao....

    Just like Amahad Rashad. Ass kisser.
     

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