I don't know if i missed it or not but i don't think anyone has acknowledged that Turiaf is a 6'10 atheletic freak. He may be getting a little overpaid but he fits their system and it will work for the warriors. Harrington and Jackson seemed overpaid too before they went there. The warriors wouldn't have extended the offer to Landry because he's 6'8 and isn't able to slide permanetely to the 5. Turiaf will. I don't know if i see them keeping Biedrins though. He wants more than 10 mil a year and this move makes him less needed.
I seriously doubt that signing a Ronny Turiaf would make Biedrins expendable. In fact, Biedrins is probably worth the 10 mil a year.
Mo Taylor undersized? He may have played like it, lol, but at 6'9" 260lbs, his size was something he had going for him. Mo just couldn't, or wouldn't, use that size to the Rockets advantage.
Typical over pay so the Lakers won't match type of deal, and if they do match, it hurts them as to the Lux tax...good move by GS. DD
You have to consider Monta Ellis is the top priority and he will be getting about 10 mil. They already have Jackson and Harrington's contracts, they signed Maggette for 10 mil and their signing Turiaf for 4 mil. Think about it, where is all this money coming from? I expect to either see Biedrins take less money or see him off the team. Its not that i think Turiaf is as good as Biedrins but with the way Nelly likes to go small i don't see the warriors paying Turiaf 4 mil to ride pine. Biedrins and Harrington take up most of the minutes at the 5 so either they intend to play bigger (unlikely) or their they don't think Biedrins is worth what he thinks he is.
Or, perhaps Morey's smarter than all of us with his "I want the knee injury to be checked out again" move.
Turiaf is 6'10" and has been in a league a little longer than Landry.....who is 6'8" and possibly has knee problems. DD
With Davis gone, you know Jackson's and Harrington's days are numbered. Like Deckard said, I'm sure Mullin is fielding offers for one, if not both, of the players right now.
Turiaf is a solid pick up for GS if the Lakers don't match. Contrary to what the op stated I've seen Turiaf demonstrate a pretty reliable mid range jumper and some good one on one low block moves. Alot of people forget he was the go to guy on Gonzaga Morrison's first couple of years there. Would love him as a Rocket, just not added to our evergrowing collection of PFs... In my mind Landry is worth something similar, like others have said the prior knee injuries might knock a couple years off the deal but I ( and I suspect Landry) would be happy with something in the 3-5 mil. per year range.
Turiaf has been durable (minus the heart issue which is now a non-issue) and played at a consistent level for a few years. Carl Landry has not been durable so far and played at a consistent level for 20-30 games.
At 6'8, Landry was the better rebounder and better scorer. Turiaf has him in shotblocking, position defense, and he can play center better. The knee is the big issue on whether he is worth more than Turiaf. Even when he wasn't playing well after his injury, he was better than Turiaf.
I guess you're right. I was thinking about his playing style more than his actual size. Thinking back, I really hate Mo Taylor. He got paid, blew out his knee, and then never really did jack after that. He had the potential, at least before the injury, to be a Carlos Boozer type player. At least Kelvin Cato really tried to play his last couple years with the team, especially the year under JVG. Both Mo and Kelvin serve as cautionary tales as to why we should not overpay Carl Landry.
I thought about that when Davis opted out too but who are they going too. Do you remember what the market was for them when Indiana tried to trade them? Those guys are made for that style of offense and (i hate say it but) with their attitudes they can't get much value back for them. Similar to Tracy Mcgrady here, even though they would like to get rid of them those guys are much more valuable than anything they would get in return.
breakdown of Ronny Turiaf 4 million salary: 2.5 millions for playing basketball; 1.5 millions for dancing by the bench. player + cheerleader combo. cant beat that.
Turiaf, 6.6 points 3.9 rebounds, 47.4% FG in 18 min per game (last season average) Landry 7.4 points 4.9 rebounds 58% FG in 17 min per game (after injury, 14 regular season games.) in playoffs: Landry 5.7 points 4.7 rebounds 42.3% FG in 18 min per game. Turiaf 2.0 points 1.4 rebounds 38.9% FG in 10 min per game.
These Turiaf/Landry comparisons are cracking me up. Am I the only one that thinks Turiaf sucks? Seriously, could he have played any worse in the playoffs too? He was definitely competing for the Gilbert Arenas/Luther Head "Dark Angel of Death" award the moment he checked into the game in the playoffs. Don't let his his one shot block a game fool you into thinking he's something he's not. Landry is much better, has more upside and is more developed despite Turiaf's three years of experience to Landry's one.
Just wondering, I browsed through the thread and couldn't find what y'all's source was. I assume it was this ESPN Insider Rumor that says "Turiaf Signs Offer Sheet" right? Because I'm basically trusting you guys that the team is Golden State.
Like I said before, if u don't have league pass, ur opinions are probably based on 5 games or so. Those who say landry has a higher side or more atheletic hasn't watched Turiaf play. Turiaf got the offer because of his flexibilty and its the going rate for a decent player. Here is a stat for u stat freaks, in 31mins starting in 10 games 10ppg 6 rebs and 2.25 blks. Now u may poo-poo that, but that worth 4m per in the nba from the center spot, plus he can play the 4.
