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Ron Paul Responds to TSA: Introduces 'American Traveler Dignity Act'

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rtsy, Nov 17, 2010.

  1. NMS is the Best

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    So are you okay with the TSA setting up checkpoints on US highways and on public transportation? I mean, driving a car or getting on a bus is a choice also, right?...
     
  2. Refman

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    I have never heard of any checkpoints and have certainly never seen any. As a general rule, I would or be ok with it as we have the right to travel freely between states. However, if there were a specific, credible threat, I could see a temporary checkpoint.

    As for public transportation, those systems are an at risk target for an attack....so yeah, that is reasonable. You have the right to travel, but not by public means without being checked to make sure you aren't a murderous wacko.
     
  3. NMS is the Best

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    No, I am talking about if there are not specific credible threats, just the TSA randomly setting up checkpoints...

    Where else do you believe the TSA can setup shop and start groping people?

    Shopping malls?
    Restaurants?
    Places of worship?
    Hospitals?

    Since these are places that are 'at risk for an attack' it would seem you are okay with it...
     
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  4. Classic

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    Google TSA checkpoints. Lots of articles from various media outlets for you to catch up on.

    Meanwhile, as we continue to fund and expand this nonsense, public libraries among other public services are facing huge budget cuts.
     
  5. Refman

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    I am staunchly against random checkpoints in malls and on highways.

    However, train stations and airplanes are different. Look at the number of airplane hijackings in the world in the last 30 years and the multitude of train bombings by the IRA amongst others. They are high risk, high casualty targets.
     
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    Confrontation With TSA Agent Leaves Grandpa's Ashes On Floor

    Indianapolis Man Furious Over Treatment At Florida Airport Checkpoint

    INDIANAPOLIS -- A man's attempt to bring the ashes of his grandfather home to Indianapolis ended with an angry scene in a Florida airport, with the ashes spilled on the terminal floor.

    John Gross, a resident of Indianapolis' south side, was leaving Florida with the remains of his grandfather -- Mario Mark Marcaletti, a Sicilian immigrant who worked for the Penn Central Railroad in central Indiana -- in a tightly sealed jar marked "Human Remains."

    Gross said he didn't think he'd have a problem, until he ran into a TSA agent at the Orlando airport.

    "They opened up my bag, and I told them, 'Please, be careful. These are my grandpa's ashes,'" Gross told RTV6's Norman Cox. "She picked up the jar. She opened it up.

    "I was told later on that she had no right to even open it, that they could have used other devices, like an X-ray machine. So she opened it up. She used her finger and was sifting through it. And then she accidentally spilled it."

    Gross says about a quarter to a third of the contents spilled on the floor, leaving him frantically trying to gather up as much as he could while anxious passengers waited behind him.

    "She didn't apologize. She started laughing. I was on my hands and knees picking up bone fragments. I couldn't pick up all, everything that was lost. I mean, there was a long line behind me."

    TSA rules say a crematory container in carry-on baggage must pass through the X-ray machine at the security checkpoint.

    But the agency's own website says human remains are to be opened under, “no circumstances.”

    "I want an apology,” said Gross. “I want an apology from TSA. I want an apology from the lady who opened the jar and laughed at me. I want them to help me understand where they get off treating people like this."

    http://www.theindychannel.com/news/31224633/detail.html
     
  7. peleincubus

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    Man oh man if someone laughed at me while I was pick that up off the ground.
     
  8. AMS

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    I would like to see the video of that... Seems odd that a TSA agent or any person in their right mind would do that.
     
  9. Agent94

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    Your logic is inconsistent. There was a train bombing in another country, so it's OK to have TSA check trains here. Yet it is not OK to check restaurants and malls. Its easier to take out a Luby's than a train.

    The TSA is a giant waste of money. It is security theater. They do very little other than appear to make us more secure. At the same time they are a desensitizing the population to our police state.
     
  10. Classic

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    You do realize that based on the average pay of these folks, they're not exactly attracting the best & brightest. Besides that, who in their right mind would clock in day in and day out to grope kids and old women?
     
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  12. Refman

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    My logic is just fine. Public transportation has been a target of bombings for decades. There have been threats against public transportation in the US. If a bomb were to go off on, for example, a New York subway at rush hour, the results would be catastrophic.

    As for our security, most security experts worldwide believe it does not go nearly far enough to be effective.
     
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    lol. Citation needed.
     
  14. AMS

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    I completely agree with that. Then again Walmart/McDonalds/ or any retail/security job for that matter doesn't attract the best and the brightest.

    Yet you wouldn't see the average retail/security worker do something as dumb as drop someones ashes and laugh about it after doing such a thing.
     
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    Just in case...

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...-headline&utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

    Jonah Falcon, Man With World's Largest Penis, Frisked By TSA At California Airport

    Turns out it's legal to have a weapon of mass conception at the airport.

    Jonah Falcon was stopped and frisked by the TSA at the San Francisco International Airport on July 9 because of a bulging package hidden in his pants. But the 41-year-old New Yorker wasn't packing a dirty bomb, drugs or a Costco-sized tube of toothpaste. The New Yorker has the world's largest recorded penis.

    In an exclusive interview with The Huffington Post, Falcon described his hard times with security guards after his extra carry-on became suspect.

    "I had my 'stuff' strapped to the left. I wasn't erect at the time," said Falcon, whose penis is 9 inches flaccid, 13.5 inches erect. "One of the guards asked if my pockets were empty and I said, 'Yes.'"

    Falcon said he knew that his interview was about to get a lot more personal when he was led through one of the X-ray body scanners and passed a metal detector.

    "Another guard stopped me and asked me if I had some sort of growth," Falcon said, laughing.

    Indeed he did have a growth.

    By the age of 18, Falcon knew he had something special when his manhood reached a whopping 12 inches. His family jewel was hailed as the world's largest on record after an HBO documentary featured him in 1999. The Guinness Book of World Records does not record such feats, but Falcon did show his standout feature to Huffington Post Executive Crime/Weird News Editor Buck Wolf.
    Falcon has been contacted by p*rn companies (though he's never accepted) and has been featured on just about every talkshow in the country.

    As he passed through airport security, Falcon said a younger security guard felt threatened by his "very noticeable" package -- and interpreted it as a biological threat.

    "I said, 'It's my dick,'" Falcon said. "He gave me a pat down but made sure to go around [my penis] with his hands. They even put some powder on my pants, probably a test for explosives. I found it amusing."

    The screener gave up the extensive search without so much as a blush or a smile. Falcon made his flight back to New York on time.

    But he learned something that day. The hardened traveler has a new game plan for airport security.

    "I'm just gonna wear bike shorts from now on," Falcon said. "That way, they'll know. You'd think the San Francisco TSA would have had experience with hung guys before, but I guess not."

    TSA officials at the San Francisco International Airport did not return calls for comment.
     
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    Can't say I'm shocked, but chilling nonetheless. I wish the guy had been able to record his experience. It's pretty sad that the interrogators are essentially clueless on cultures religions, and countries outside of their own. The people responsible for the safety of the American public traveling through the nations airports really have no idea just who is traveling through these airports.
     

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