Ron Paul Responds to TSA: Introduces 'American Traveler Dignity Act'

i dont get how this statement jibes w/ these...

 

I'm not sure what you're misunderstanding. It's pretty clear.

Civil disobedience is a tool used for positive change. I support it. Sometimes civil disobedience is a tool used for pure self interest.

People practicing civil disobedience often get arrested for it. Until the law/policy prompting the civil disobedience is no longer in effect, disagreeing with the law does not give you the right to disobey it without repercussion.

In the case of the video with the lady, her refusal to cooperate got her arrested. I had no problem with her being arrested.

If someone is in line at an airport with a mechanical metal box attached to their chest, I would hope that airport security would insure it was nothing of danger.

 

i agree that there are repercussions to disobeying laws, even ones you feel are unjust. i dont think anyone would argue otherwise.

it just seems like you are trying to have it both ways when you claim you support acts of civil disobedience but you say you have no sympathy for this woman, who was a rape victim, and you think she is "foolish" and that its funny that the cops knocked her to the ground and arrested her b/c she did not want her breasts felt. that does not sound like the attitude of someone who is sympathetic to acts of civil disobedience.

and you think they need to feel her breasts in order to do this? if sexually molesting innocent americans is what it takes to make yall feel safe than "the terrorists" have already won.

 

I'd be happy if they could figure out how to stop guns from going through in carry-on and quit wasting our time with pointless security theater that accomplishes nothing while degrading everyone... But hey, I guess I'm just old-fashioned like that.

 

Glocks rock!, btw going down this road, why not use the proven profiling method? ...It works, ask Israel...

 

exactly - as i pointed out many times in this thread, if they simply followed procedures already inplace and utilized the tools already at their disposal 9/11 would not have happened and the underwear bomber would have never even made it past the ticket counter (where he paid cash for a 1 way ticket and didnt even have a passport, btw).

but the response by the government (republican or democrat) is not to ensure that in the future they do their job properly - instead, we see a continual increase in the police state and an erosion of our freedoms...essentially doing exactly what "the terrorists" wanted us to do.

 

Why do we do that? We give them diplomatic immunity anyway. You'd think we'd take the security risk and let them walk through.

 

Jesse Ventura sues the TSA and DHS after he is repeatedly groped courtesy of his hip-replacement surgery.

 

Rep for The Body!

 

I second that

 

That was reported on the local news here. Keep in mind though that what Ventura is asking for is not an all out repeal of the TSA regulations but a special exemption for himself as a former Navy SEAL, frequent traveller and governor. Also the local news played a clip of Gov. Ventura right after 9/11 giving a speech saying that the public needs to put up with more inconvenience to improve safety.

 

although he has pointed out the absurdity of a former governor, navy seal and famous actor/entertainer having to prove he is not a terrorist, he is not asking for a special exemption b/c of those things - it seems to have more to do w/ his artificial hip and the scrutiny he has to go through over it everytime he flys. and the article specifically says he is suing b/c he was "exposed him to humiliation and degradation through unwanted touching, gripping and rubbing of the intimate areas of his body."

and he isnt asking for a special exemption solely for himself - if anything, he is trying to get an exemption for all handicapped people so they can try to maintain their dignity. be it people w/ fake hips, people in wheelchairs, breast cancer survivors w/ prosthetic breasts and people w/ colostomy bags.

but based on the article it looks like he is directly challenging the constitutionality of the TSA groping and naked body scanning. i would love to see this turn into some kind of class-action suit!

im going to bet he didnt have naked body scanning and sexually molesting people who want to fly in mind when he made those comments.

the TSA already settled w/ the woman in corpus who had her breasts exposed by the TSA and then had a bunch of those pervs make inappropriate comments to her and joke about it. if ventura is successful it will really kick open the door to more people suing, which would be awesome!

 

Standing in line a little longer and taking off your shoes is inconvenient. Getting groped is more than being inconvenienced.

 

Wil Wheaton on his recent groping:

 

"I applaud the TSA."

 

This is just ****ing gross. I'm flabbergasted a TSA employee would even be willing to do this. Perverts.

Ky. parents: TSA frisked our 6-year-old daughter

BOWLING GREEN, Ky. – A Kentucky couple wants the TSA to change how it screens children after their 6-year-old daughter was frisked at the New Orleans airport.

Selena Drexel told ABC's "Good Morning America" Wednesday the family was returning home from a vacation earlier this month when their daughter Anna was selected for a pat-down.

The couple posted a video of the search on YouTube.

The girl's father, Todd Drexel, says Anna was confused by the search and started crying afterward because she thought she'd done something wrong.

Selena Drexel says such searches are inappropriate for children because they're usually told not to let adults touch them in sensitive areas.

In a statement, the Transportation Security Administration says the officer followed proper procedure but that the agency is reviewing its screening policies.

 

Desperate times. The bad guys can use 6-year-olds to transport things precisely because you wouldn't suspect them. Or octogenarians. Or people that look 'white'.

It's a tit for tat that leads to serious curbs on freedom. I get annoyed when intelligent people think a bloated agency like the TSA with so many loopholes is actually keeping them safe, and that these new measures are necessary. Israel doesn't use scanners, nor should we.