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Ron Paul at 52% in Iowa

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ToyCen428, Dec 23, 2011.

  1. Dubious

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    How would this be different from Ron Paul if you just changed Junche Idea to Ron Paul Idea and Korean masses to American people?

    Juche Idea, that identifies the Korean masses as the masters of the country's development. From the 1950s to the 1970s, Kim elaborated the Juche Idea into a set of principles that the government uses to justify its policy decisions. Among these are independence from great powers, a strong military posture, and reliance on Korean national resources. "Juche" has sometimes been translated in North Korean sources as "independent stand" or "spirit of self-reliance", and has also been interpreted as "always putting Korean things first."[1]:414 According to Kim Il-sung, the Juche Idea is based on the belief that "man is the master of everything and decides everything."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche
     
  2. Hightop

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    "And, more importantly, I believe it's less important to beat up on and condemn a certain set of powerless and marginalized people who think and believe some nasty things everyone agrees are wrong than it is to beat up on and condemn the set of incredibly powerful people who actually act to commit crimes and rights-violation and damage to life across the globe who everyone thinks are perfectly right to do so. And Ron Paul is the only candidate with any public traction and fans who condemns and would fight to stop such crimes, from the drug war to non-defensive overseas wars to armed assaults on people because they sell raw milk to rampant violations of American's civil liberties and privacy to an organization in charge of our money supply that uses that power to scuttle the entire world economy and bailout its buddies."


    Obama is purge garbage.
     
  3. Major

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    What does anything you quoted have to do with Obama?
     
  4. Kojirou

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    So, apparently the argument is, "Paul may be a racist, but at least his ideas are more awesome than the establishment! Fight the power!"

    And which is it? Are you guys marginalized and powerless, or do you represent all of America whom would totally jump on the Paul bandwagon and overthrow the system if The Truth came out?
     
  5. Hightop

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    I don't think he "maybe" racist anymore than anyone else. It's a smear by association. The loving and tolerant Left want to destroy his character for political rea$ons.

    Please show me a direct quote from his many speeches or a direct excerpt from one of his many books that is racist.

    I will show you some actual racist quotes form Democrats first:



    "Typical white person"
    – Barack Obama

    "I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
    -- Lyndon B. Johnson

    “These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”
    –Lyndon B. Johnson

    "Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them."
    -- Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

    "The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes."
    -- Louis Farrakhan

    "He (Reid) was wowed by Obama's oratorical gifts and believed that the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as Obama - a ‘light-skinned’ African American ‘with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one,’ as he said privately. Reid was convinced, in fact, that Obama's race would help him more than hurt him in a bid for the Democratic nomination."
    — Senator Harry Reid, quoted in the book "Game Changer"

    "Jews — that's J-E-W-S."
    -- Democratic state representative Bill McKinney, describing why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002

    "I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America."
    - President Harry Truman

    "You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent."
    - Joe Biden

    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy."
    — Joe Biden

    “There’s less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than 4% or 5% that is, are minorities. What is it in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you’re dealing with.”
    — Joe Biden

    "You'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva."
    -- Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)

    “I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation.”
    –Sen. Christopher Dodd

    "The white race is the cancer of human history."
    -- Susan Sontag

    (On Clarence Thomas) "A handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom."
    -- Spike Lee

    "Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."
    -- Robert "KKK" Byrd

    (I) "will not let the white boys win in this election."
    -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager

    "Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey's cars?"
    -- Left-wing radio host Neil Rogers

    Blacks and Hispanics are "too busy eating watermelons and tacos" to learn how to read and write."
    -- Mike Wallace, CBS News. Source: Newsmax

    “I have never seen very many white people who felt they were being imposed upon or being subjected to any second-class citizenship if they were directed to a waiting room or to any other public facility to wait or to eat with other white people. Only the Negroes, of all the races which are in this land, publicly proclaim they are being mistreated, imposed upon, and declared second-class citizens because they must go to public facilities with members of their own race.”
    –Sen. Richard B. Russell Jr. (D-GA) (The Russell Senate Office Building is named after him.)

    "There's no great, white bigot; there's just about 200 million little white bigots out there."
    -- USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux
     
  6. CCorn

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    Everyone has said stupid stuff in their life. I do all the time. If I was running for office and they looked over what I've posted here I'd be screwed ha.
     
  7. saitou

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    You're joking right? There are direct quotes all over from his newsletters (you can see the PDF files online). If you want to accept the "ghost writer" excuse you can extend it to other people's speeches and books as well (which is absurd).

    B4 you play the victim card, presidential candidates do get grilled on this stuff. Right wing critics have called Obama a racist too.
     
  8. Hightop

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    You don't know what a direct quote is. Sucks to be stupid.
     
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  10. Hightop

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    That's still not a direct quote. Try again.
     
  12. saitou

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    lol...

    "The liberals want to keep white America from taking action against black crime and welfare." - Ron Paul

    "Jury verdicts, basketball games and even music are enough to set off black rage, it seems." - Ron Paul
     
  13. Hightop

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    Yeah, I'm sure Ron Paul knows all about Sister Souljah. That sounds exactly like something he would say. The newsletter masthead says Ron Paul so of course he wrote that. That is undeniable proof of a direct quote.

    Let me help you out some:

    direct quotation : A report of the exact words of an author or speaker.
     
  14. saitou

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    ^You can say the exact same thing about books. Just because it has someone's name on the cover doesn't mean it was actually written by him, a ghost writer could have been used. So why do you accept quotes from books as "direct quotes" despite the lack of "undeniable proof"? Because it's reasonable to expect authors who publish content under their name to (a) read the content, (b) endorse the content.
     
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    context: the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect

    "The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know - there's a reaction in her that's been bred into our experiences that don't go away and sometimes come out in the wrong way and that's just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it. What makes me optimistic is you see each generation feeling less like that. And that's pretty powerful stuff"

    -Barack Obama

    I agree with the president's statement, as he has a unique perspective on race relations in this country.
     
  16. Hightop

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    Give. it. up. :)

    Do yourself a big favor and spend more time thinking about Obama the NDAA, drone wars, the drug war, and the assassination and detention of US citizens.
     
  17. Hightop

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    He doesn't have ****.
     
  18. across110thstreet

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    you don't appear to be very intelligent or well spoken. I'll go out gracefully now.
     
  19. Realjad

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    Someone please tell me how someone who wants to end the drug war immensely saving minorities lives and well being while at the same time pulling out from over seas saving even more brownih people's lives and well being is racist?

    22 years ago some dude hijacked Paul's newsletters- 20 years ago Paul said he didn't approve of them as soon as he found out..however the idea of the newsletters was cool and dozens upon dozens were good stuff.

    That is like bashing Walt Disney because he is associated with films like the little mermaid and lion king because some artist hijacked some **** and put in some subliminal sex references like writing sex in the stars.. That that mean Disney is bull**** or does it mean Disney concepts are still awesome and amazing?
     
  20. saitou

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    Just because his policies may be beneficial to people other than whites doesn't prove anything.

    His defense of the newsletters have evolved. Back in 96 (less than 20 years ago) he didn't disapprove of them, didn't mention anything about ghost writers, he defended them, said they were taken out of context.
     

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