Ron Paul= a Pawn for Romney?

imo, what is cuckoo is advocating for more war, more war on drugs, more defense spending, doubling the size of gitmo, supporting the patriot act and wanting to continue to keep tens of thousands of troops in iraq - and thinking that you can do this and cut taxes and reduce the deficit.

 

i watched the whole video and i see nothing that indicates paul is a pawn for romney.

paul has said all along that although he disagrees w/ romney on most issues he at least can get along w/ him and be respectful. he clearly does not like gingrich and santorum on a personal level and does not find them to be very respectful towards him.

and when did being cordial towards your opponents = pawn? id prefer to see two candidates who can be respectful towards each other rather than act like douchebags like santorum, gingrich, perry, palin, ect. thats why an obama-paul match-up would be so nice - it would be a real debate on issues instead of stupid demagoguery.

as for him going after santorum and gingrich harder than romney, it makes sense - he is vying for 2nd place w/ the other two. romney is clearly the establishment choice and the other 3 are fighting to be the "outsider". going after romney would help santorum and gingrich more than paul.

this is such a silly line of attack and for the record, i would not support a romney-paul ticket unless romney adopted pauls policies, which i dont see happening. it would take a kojirou-esque complete 180 degree turn on his political positions for me to consider supporting him.

i as i have said, romney has more in common w/ obama than he does w/ paul.

 

This is only true if you believe Ron Paul can win the nomination outright, but I don't think anyone (even him) believes that. He's not surpassing 20% even if this becomes a two man race. His goal is to get his views out there and have influence - the minute the nomination is decided, his influence is gone (as we saw in 2008). The only way for him to stay relevant and force candidates to pay attention to his views is for the nomination process to go on in a fractured way.

Romney is only candidate with the ability to run away with the nomination, thanks to his money and organizational advantages, plus being the establishment / "electable" candidate. So if you eliminate Santorum and Gingrich, Romney sweeps the rest of the way and Ron Paul becomes irrelevant, exactly as happened after McCain became the consensus last time around. No one will pay attention to the nomination anymore at that point. If Santorum does well these next two weeks, it opens the door for this to become a 3 man race with Newt dropping out because Santorum is not going to run away with this thing, and Ron Paul has the ability to play spoiler and make his delegates matter. It's the ONLY endgame where Paul has any relevance in this process, and he should be doing everything possible to ensure that this races drags on.

 

Santorum was about to run away with the nomination if Paul didn't go after him...

I think the real test to see if Paul has a deal with Romney is Virginia (only Romney and Paul are on the ballot). If Paul actively contests the state then you can be pretty sure there isn't some deal like everyone says there is...

 

Santorum doesn't have the money or infrastructure to run away with anything. If he does well Tuesday, he'll do well next week on Super Tuesday because of geography, but then the entire establishment will come crashing down on him to kill his campaign (as they did with Newt) as will all of Romney's money and resources - which have been proven effective time and time again.

Why? No one is suggesting Ron Paul is not contesting any states - he'll contest everything he can. It just that he's very clearly helping Romney win the nomination, whether by choice or by terrible strategy.

 

So with the speculation that Ron is cozying up to Romney to get Rand as the Veep nominee, what would the Paulies think if this was indeed the case?

 

I don't think there's any way that's possible. The Pauls are completely opposed to Romney on ideology. Either Rand Paul would have to scrap everything he believes, or he and Romney would be on totally different pages during the campaign.

 

Exactly. Which is why it would be fun. Oh, and there are very few absolutes in politics, which makes strange bedfellows.

 

for someone who says that nobody talks about ron paul except his rabid supporters you sure have done quite a bit of talking about him in this thread.

romney is not going anywhere - the most vulnerable are santorum and gingrich - like i said, it makes sense strategically for paul to focus on them. his best chance is if the other two are out of the way. attacking romney only helps those two. also, its obvious that paul genuinely dislikes santorum and gingrich.

so do you actually think that paul has cut some under-the-table deal w/ romney?