RON ARTEST should be disciplinarianally BENCHED...

Artest not worth more than the MLE? You're going crazy DD. I gave you pass on Vspan without dogging on you but even the biggest Artest haters thinks he deserves more than the MLE.

 

Not true, if San Antonio loses tonight we still have to beat Dallas because they would have a better division record if we lost and they won their last game.

We have to win out regardless.

DD

 

One star for misspelling in the title and a knee-jerk thread with the same argument as several other recent threads. Also, anyone who has watched Ron Artest closely knows you take the whole crazy package with Ron. His toughness is inseparable from his bad shot selection.

 

I agree.

Remember, some people here are expecting Artest to shoot 40% from 3-point during the playoffs.

 

Do yall FINALLY see what I was saying about Artest's shot selection AND decision making?? Bill Worrell is as big a Rockets fan that I've ever seen, and he was honestly irritated with Ron during the late 1st quarter early 2nd quarter, and thats something I've never seen him do on a Rockets telecast, not to Tmac, not Franchise, Pippen, Mo Taylor, Moochie, Maxwell whoever this city hates on or the team, so I was actually quite surprised.


In a close game, those decisions would've killed us in a game. I don't mind if Artest misses 10 wide open 3's or if he's attacking the basket under control or posting up, but when he tries to go 1-on3, and continues to lose handle of the ball, its freakin ridiculous! At the very least, he seemed more open to passing the ball to Yao when he was in there.

But we really can't afford these 5 minute stretches of Ron Artest trying to do too much, in the playoffs, he's just not good enough to do that. Hopefully he'll realize that, because I'm seriously fed up with a pro basketball player who makes stupid decisions like that on a good basketball team.

 

I am also quite worried about Ron shooting percentage (though his defence is good). Today's game of 2-13 is quite scary (imagine if Rafer shoots with that percentage, the fans would go crazy. I wonder whether he could shoot better or fare better with more shooting or lay up practice.

 

I said not much more than the MLE....his efficiency is not all that high.....his shooting and tendency to screw up the offense is pretty bad.

How much do you think he is worth? I doubt any NBA team will offer him much more than the MLE, he is just too risky.

DD

 

Ron will get more than 8 million per year.

 

Only from Houston, any other NBA team would never give him that.....and If I were Morey I would let him test the waters to see.....

You honestly think another team would give Ron that much?

I certainly don't.....and if the Rocket's do, it should not be more than 2 or 3 years...tops...

DD

 

Knee-jerk thread--again.

Ron does have his moments of chaos, but overall, he is a great asset on the team.

I won't fault him for being so competitive that he makes bad decisions once in awhile. That doesn't bother me. It would bother me if I could tell that he didn't give a damn about the outcome of the game.

He just wants to win. Let it go.

Cod

 

Ron can be frustrating when he tries to "impose his will" (where have we heard that before) at the end of games. But almost all NBA players (maybe short of M. Jordan and now Kob) have something wrong with their game. So does what Ron brings (toughness, defense, ability to get to the basket) out weigh his shortcomings (occasional black hole ball hog and sometimes poor shot selection)? What is he worth? Comes down to who can you get better for the same price?

 

Hope he will learn.

 

He won't learn. He's trying to get himself a big contract, and is trying to shoot his way into it.

 

I think he's just trying to do too much. If the Rockets re-up him IMO they need to bring in an All-Star calibre playmaker with efficient shooting percentages. That's been a recent problem with Alston, McGrady, and now Artest.

Deke's chinese shoe deal has a Yao Ming bonus that was described by that company as being very generous or something to that effect. Depending on how generous and if Ron has the same type of incentive drawn in it could possibly help the Rockets to re-sign him in the $6-8M region, perhaps?

Artest will be a question mark for the rest of his career. Morey can easily go from the Wizard to Warkenstein II. The economy and 2010 is going to be Morey's friend he needs to let the market this free agency to do it's thing and set Artest's price.

 

Ron can be frustrating when he tries to "impose his will" (where have we heard that before) at the end of games. But almost all NBA players (maybe short of M. Jordan and now Kob) have something wrong with their game. So does what Ron brings (toughness, defense, ability to get to the basket) out weigh his shortcomings (occasional black hole ball hog and sometimes poor shot selection)? What is he worth? Comes down to who can you get better for the same price?

 

sorry for the double post

 

Artest certainly can have his moments of overdribbling and taking bad shots, no doubts there. HOWEVER, anyone who gets upset at him taking an open 3 pointer where his feet are set in the flow of the offense doesnt know good basketball. Think about all the bad 3 pointers he takes(maybe 1 or 2 per game) and he STILL shoots 40% from range. Just imagine his 3p% if he erased all those bad 3balls.

 

I have no problem at all with him taking those shots in the flow of the offense.

It is when he gets the ball at the top of the key and tries to go Ron vs the world that he is absoultely putrid...

He stops the flow of the offense and he doesn't pass all that much....Ron is just not that quick anymore.

He is ok on the wings but not at the top....

There are only 4 players that should have the ball at the top of the circle trying to make plays.

1. AB
2. Lowry
3. Wafer
4. Barry

No one else need apply....RON...this means you...you are NOT that great.

Just play within the system and it will all be good.

DD