[Rolling Stone] Matt Taibbi goes to Kentucky, leaves behind carcass of Tea Party

it *was* necessary; it's not now, and it's not necessary to discriminate against others to redress wrongs to some.

 

She argued otherwise, as do many of her generation.

 

exactly the opposite, in fact.

 

He's correct, and we won't be snickering after the midterms.



Oh, and White conservatives are racist! I have to say that to keep my liberal street cred.

 

We’ll see

Buck up my man! I have faith that sane Americans will make the correct choices in November.

 

Tea Partier!

 

So dead on. At least in my experience.

I have volunteered at this place, mostly senior citizens, for the past five years. In the past few months I've been subjected to overhearing political discussion - primarily 'tea party' rhetoric. They have become more and more fervent and are now trying to engage me.

As an example...I politely tell one guy, 'I'd rather not discuss politics with anyone, I keep it to myself' and smile apologetically. He takes this as me being apathetic and asks if I know anything about politics. 'Don't you know what's happening out there!?!?' He also tells me that I should vote otherwise it's a waste. I reply that I am well informed (or at least try to be) and that I have voted ever since I became of age. I turn my head and try to occupy myself with something else. Not getting the hint, he asks if I'm tired of those 'fat cats in government' and how bad everything is and 'isn't it crazy what America has become.' 'Don't you want to vote them out?'

I wondered to myself how simplistic his solution was and who has HE been voting for? I excuse myself before he continues...he probably assumed I would be easily convinced and on board like he was.

I could only bite my tongue so hard while thinking where the f*** was this talk 2, 3, 4, 5 years ago. Oh waitaminuteIthinkIhaveanidea. Quite frankly that ruined the rest of my day. I can put up with this s***. Just leave me alone at the very least.

In conclusion, I will probably quit soon.

 

This one is my favorite (I know you can't read the whole title):

Left Coast Rebel: When Did the Rolling Stone Become a Far-Left ...

When was it not a Far-Left (fill in the blank)? I have been a subscriber of Rolling Stone since I was a youngster. I still get a little hop in my step when I find a new one in the mailbox.

Excellent long-form journalism, great music reviews, front-row pews available to worship at the Springsteen alter, Peter Travers' un-stuffy music reviews...

It's the perfect magazine for an ultra-liberal like myself.

 

I know exactly how you feel dude. The vast majority of my family is like this. Maddening.

 

That has always been the main goal of the conservative movement for many years. It is the reason why they trash government in any fashion possible unless they can clearly and nearly immediately make money off it. If needs be they will pretend to be against gays, abortion, love to read the Bible etc. if that is what it takes. They will push incompetents like Dubya inot office if that advances this goal. They like gridlock in government. They especially hate popular programs like social security that work.

Many of the very rich are living off of old money and there are only two things that can upset their lifestyle-- Inflation and taxes. They could care less if the USA makes anything or evenin many cases if the stock market goes up. Just don't erode the value of their money or tax it.

 

Uhh, who do you think Rolling Stone has its allegiance to? The "leftist" government or its readers? If their readers like stories like this, what's wrong with publishing such a thing? Rolling Stone is not a political vehicle, if you haven't noticed.

Besides, why does a message have to be about winning politics or higher approvals? If the message is the right one, I think it needs to be said regardless of political ramifications. For the same reason, if legislation needs to get passed (reforms, etc.), politicians should try to pass it instead of worrying about any ramifications on the next election. People should TRY TO GET STUFF DONE instead of fretting about job security.

 

More evidence that this "movement" is the death rattle of a shrinking demographic. Things will evolve, we'll get better and more understanding as a people... and the following is not an attempt at age-ism, but my generation (born at the begining of the 80's) is coming of age and will sieze control within a scant amount of time.

Think about these things:

1) The racial element: My generation was born 35 years removed from the civil rights era. I am a mixed race, anglo rap afficianado and embrace black culture in a way that almost never happened back then. We can't help but be markedly less racist as a result. As a south-east Texan, I know collegues and friends who's parents crossed the border illegally to give their child a better life in this county. It can't help but temper my stance on immigration and paint it in a more sypathetic light.

2) Homophobia: Gays & Lesbians did not come out in High School 35 years ago, but they did in my suburban high school with little social consequence. We have seen TV shows centered around G&L lifestyles, Ellen came out at the top of her fame then surpassed that peak down the road, and homosexuality has generally become less taboo and more visible. We can't help but be less homophobic.

3) Drugs: Yes, drugs were used in excess in the 60's and 70's (and, really, from the begining of time). But it's become so commonplace to discuss it today... I heard Krusty the Klown mention doing blow in a recent Simpsons episode for god's sake. Not that I advocate doing coke, but with a prevailing attitude like that, my generation won't demonize mar1juana the way someone from the "good 'ole days" does. We'll understand that society won't decend into hell if you allow someone to legally smoke a joint.

This is the tip of the iceberg. The charge to those around my age, part of my generation, is to NOT allow our malaise to let them get the better of us. We have to seize the conch when it appears in our view. Stand up, talk about this stuff to your peers, and accept the responsibility that only WE can change the dialoge.

 

but what can you do, if the republican base didn't learn when bush II didn't put a pro lifer on the court, when will they.

even laura is pro choice

 

If you think the inherent problems in our society will improve once Whites become a minority, you are going to be sadly surprised.

 

Why not engage the guy. Keep it civil. I seldom miss a chance to talk to folks like this. After advanced training on this board you must be careful not to blow the poor guy away.

 

What is really disheartening is that this generation making up the tea party are the people who were teenagers and coming of age during the sixties.

So much for peace, love, and understanding.

“When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.”

Jimi

 

The generation you speak of will go down as the worst generation in American history. Also the tea party consists of none of these worthless hippies.