Plain and simple: Cops are thugs and as*h***s! They treat everyone like crap and think they are so tough. Worse than some criminals in many respects!
This is pretty minor compared to the kinds of stuff a lot of cops get away with every day. Getting scraped up is a hazard if you're going to to give a cop lip. That said, some of you guys put way too much trust in a badge.
cops lie all the time. they fabricate stories to make up for their abuse of power. i know that not all cops are bad cops and not all cops lie, but the ones who do HAVE to make you question every single story that is told by the police. you can't just trust whatever they tell the press or accept that as the absolute truth. and i don't have a problem with a cop subduing a suspect but just because they give you some lip doesn't mean you can beat them up. i don't want my tax money to go to cops who decide to beat up someone everytime a suspect says something mean to them. if a guy gives me lip at school or work, does that mean i can throw him against the pavement and hit him a couple of times??? NO. and it should work the same for cops. again, if the story is true that she did try to hurt him, yes, he can throw down to the ground and do what is NECESSARY to detain her. i still find it hard for a guy that size not being able to detain her without her losing that much blood in the process.
I went to County Jail once for my DUI. While in there, I watched them physically manhandle two people two the ground, and even watched them crack a guys skull open by bashing it against a concrete wall. Dude had to be transferred immediately. Reason for all of this? The guys weren't listening to what the coppers said. There was no fighting back, and no instigation, other than they were idiots who couldn't follow direction. Plenty of police there, too. Even from other jurisdictions. They didn't even flinch. Pathetic. I have little respect for any police. Case in point: Have y'all ever known someone from grade school who became a cop? They fall into two categories. 1) Guys that were bullied all of their lives, and want to take it out on someone else. 2) Guys that always were bullies. Very insecure folks, police are.
Very true. I have a friend who became a cop, and he was generally a dick to everyone he first meets. Once he got that badge it was on.
Seeing as how you are a reputation for being snonkered every time you've been arrested, I am quite suprised a) You have an accurate recollection of anything that happened while in jail b) That you have an unbiased opinion with regards to police and c) That you have any respect for them at all. Your bitterness is understandable though, seeing as how them enforcing DUI laws have cost you a pretty penny over the years. Maybe if you stopped drinking and driving you would have a more favorable opinion of them.
You have some stats to show this or just making biased assumptions? Id actually love to see some sort of ratio comparing total # of police encounters v. the # of legit complaints they get. I bet you its a pretty small percentage. And you base this on........? Most cops aren't bad guys and most don't like IMO. Unfortunately a few bad apples can spoil a bunch. Its a shame that this would lead so many (including an apparent majority of this board (at least vocal) to have sunch an unfavorable opinion of officers. So you really think this cop decided to throw this girl to the ground and bust her up that bad just because he talked back to her? I think you are exagerrating here. You are right. And most officers follow these rules. The ones that don't, and are found to behave unjustly or excessively are dealt with. I don't find it hard to believe at all. If she resisted, and he took her to the ground, this can easily happen and does happen. The end results got caught on film which is the only reason we are talking about this. If its found she did attack the cop beforehand, a) She deserved what she got and b) I hope she is put away and does time.
heres an update from FWST.com still no lawsuit from her ......hmmmmmmm Police to investigate incident involving Deep Ellum skater By MELISSA SANCHEZ STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER DALLAS - Dallas police will conduct an internal affairs investigation into a scuffle and the arrest of a woman on roller skates in Deep Ellum. Michelle Metzinger, 25, was arrested Saturday evening by officer Ceaphus Gordon after she was skating in and out of traffic, Lt. Rick Watson said. Gordon told Metzinger to get out of the street, and Metzinger complied before visiting a nearby business, Watson said. The officer followed her in an attempt to identify her, and she became verbally abusive, Watson said. Gordon asked Metzinger to come outside by his patrol car and, once she was there, told her she could not skate in traffic. When Metzinger became verbally abusive a second time, the officer asked her how much she had to drink, and she responded she had had two or three drinks, Watson said. Gordon told Metzinger she was under arrest for public intoxication and to turn around and put her hands behind her back. As Gordon moved around Metzinger she reached up and grabbed the right side of the officer's face "to gouge his eye out," Watson said. "Out of self-defense he took her down," Watson said. "She was scratching him and kicking him with her roller blades." Gordon managed to wrestle Metzinger into handcuffs but not before sustaining lacerations and bruises to his face. Metzinger, who had lacerations on her face, refused treatment on the scene but was taken to an area hospital before being booked into the Lew Sterrett Justice Center on charges of public intoxication and assault on a public servant, Watson said.
Fairly petty personal jab, codell. Not sure why you take this so personally. First, I was stone cold sober when I went to county. I went there for the weekend. I assure you, my mind was perfectly clear seeing the events unfurl. Second, while I've stated multiply my feelings towards the current hostility towards DWI's as unfair, this has nothing to do with this response. Bring that up when I'm speaking of such. Third, considering we've had drinks before at Live, where I was walking distance away, seems like a fairly hypocritical response. Speaking of hypocritical, my ex was big fans with policemen; mainly so she could weasel out of stuff, if need be. So, one evening, we went over to a cops house after hours. Lo and behold, 5 or 6 cruisers were outside with plenty of off-duty cops getting, what was your word again, "snonkered"? Yeah, you're right. They deserve a ton of respect.
This coming from the king of "telling it like it is". Come on FFB, you have thicker skin than that. You flaunt your DWI history like its some sort of medal do you not? Was it HPD? What were the dates? It is unfair indeed. Punishment should be even more severe. Too many people lose their lives because of drunks getting behind the wheel. Its a shame that DUIers can get caught 2, 3 and even 4 times before they end up doing serious time. Based on what? They don't deserve respect if that was indeed true. Just like the ones who are abusive, etc. and overstep their authority. How about respect for the good cops, like the ones who take DUIers off the street? Who are just doing their job? Who put their lives on the line for half of what you probably make in a year? I take it personal because too many people (especially on here) like to paint law enforcement with a broad brush as abusers and ego maniacs. I have several friends who are in different areas of law enforcement and I don't think the people that slam them so much realize a) Most of them do what they do because they want to make a difference and b) Do it for ****ty pay and ****ty hours. Sounds like a cliche, but based on the ones I have met and talked to, its very true.
One police officer's account corroborated by another officer. That's not going to sway my opinion one way or the other. Was this guy even at the scene? Or is he just regurgitating the arresting officer's statement? Based on the 'evidence' we have seen so far, I don't know how anyone can say which party was in the wrong here.
