I find it unlikely that a police officer will beat down a woman in full view of a gathering crowd. My guess is that the officer is just doing what most officers do in this situation: taking a suspect to the ground for resisting arrest. The skates complicated the issue and probably made both parties lose balance, thus causing the officer to slam the girl down on the ground harder than he expected.
According to this link, http://www.nbc5i.com/news/6158812/detail.html, there were witnesses who saw that. Two sides to every story. The only witness on her say only saw the end result. The fact the officer was treated for his own injuries would seem to back up that she was culpable.
In the blog the girl who took thepictures said she saw the cop slam her head against the car and throw her to the ground. Girl says she wants to be a cop but after looking at pics of her, I can't take into account her eyewitness testimony either. Definitely going to trial though. Let them figure out what happened. PIcs do seem a bit gruesome though with all that blood. Unfortunate situation for both parties.
Sorry but I have a hard time believing that the cop would just go nuts on the girl and slam her on the floor for doing absolutely nothing. She deserved it.
I know. Cops have never done anything wrong in the history of the world. Ever. It's not telling at all. There are people that will always be 100% anti-cop and there are people that will always be 100% pro-cop. Then, there are most people who judge each situation independent of others. From what I see here, I'd probably lean towards believing that there was excessive and unnecessary force used. However, I've already stated that we don't know the whole story. None of us do. But I'm happy you think you can tell something about me or anyone else based on an opinion of this incident.
"he shoved her back on the car, so she stuggled back up, and he shoved her around." That witness said she didn't see what happened before this. Thats the key.
Yeah that's basically what I'm saying, is there is a witness who claims to have seen it but changes her story slightly midway through the blog. She may have taken the pictures but her testimony may be weak due to changes in her story. If the cop has any scratches on him I'm sure they took evidence as well. maybe they have a bit of the cops skin under the girls nails.
Actually, this is the closest to what I was trying to say. What I was trying to say is... These pictures are not enough to show whether the police officer used excessive force. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. You can't tell from those pics because they don't show whether or not she resisted.
RM95, I apologize. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was implying something about individuals. Besides, what would I be implying...that you are a cop hater?! I sincerely doubt that. I just meant it's "telling" how people in general have so little trust in cops that they believe their capable of ramming a girls head into concrete on purpose. It's sad because I'm sure there are a lot of cops who are honorable people, and shouldn't have to answer to so much skepticism. But because the actions of a few, they are rarely given the benefit of the doubt, and maybe righly so in some cases. Hence, the . I'll admit, generally I tend to side with the less skeptical explanation. But like you said, rarely do we know the whole story. Anyway, sorry for the mixup. I'll try to be more clear next time.
I too find it unbelievable that so many would choose to side with a drunk woman in a conflict with a sober, well-trained police officer. I suppose it is considered to be more popular these days to instinctively assume that the police are at fault, even if that means believing that they would purposefully bloody up a woman for no sound reason. Contrary to the popular beliefs in this thread, the police are not a group of thugs who go out seeking to cause harm in a community. This thread should probably be moved to D&D to foster a better discussion.
Gotcha...sorry for the misunderstanding. I too think it's sad that there are people who have a deep mistrust for police officers. I think the very vast majority of them are good people who take pride in protecting and serving their communities. I think what threw me off was that these people weren't friends of this girl (from what I've read anyway). They had no real agenda in taking her side over the police officers. Of course, the fact that the roller girl hasn't made a big deal out of it may point to the fact that she believes she was in the wrong. Who knows.
i do have a grude with BAD law enforcement and dirty cops. there is no place for them in this society. they are just as bad as the criminals. i've been a couple of situations and heard plenty of situations of cops overstepping their boundaries. too many times, cops think they are ABOVE the law. in san marcos over the last year the police dept. has arrested a man for saving a drowning man in the river. and beat and tased a group of african americans outside the student center after a convention of minority organizations let out, citing an "arguement" and "fight". even though there around 100 people who witnessed the whole ordeal and said there was a small verbal dispute that was resolved before leaving the student center and no fight. there were around a dozen cop cars there equipped with the cameras that record non-stop unless turned off by the officer, that were mysteriously turned off during the whole ordeal....EVERY SINGLE ONE of them. sorry if i question the police sometimes when it comes to beating, tasing, and shooting people. it's a power that can be easily abused by the police, and is on a regular basis in this country.
I agree. But you said early that law enforcement "RARELY" tells the truth about what happened. Sounds like you have a serious grudge. How can you make that sort of statement? There is no proof here at all, that this was a dirty cop. He was attacked (was treated for his injuries) and took the girl to the ground per his training, and she got busted up. Sucks for her. She shouldn't have *allegedly* attacked the officer and resisted arrest.
