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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by timm, Sep 9, 2001.

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  1. kidrock8

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    Rodman would have been a bench player. Right now he could start for us.
     
  2. saleem

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    Rodman couldn't help the Lakers or the Mavericks when he came back,he can rebound, but we need a PF with post up skills who can score in addition to rebounding and defence.
     
  3. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    I agree with you completely about Jackson as a coach. A chimpanzee could have won with what he had. However, my point is that Rodman somewhat let Jackson tell him what to do when he was with the Bulls. You can argue that alot of that had to do with a certain #23; however, Jackson didn't have the same results with him when he "played" for the Fakers. My point is not that Jackson is a great coach and Rodman only played well for him because of that. It is instead that Jackson is the only coach since Rodman left Detroit that he tried to play without the distractions. The guy definitely has some issues and problems, and I don't care how great of a player's coach Rudy T is, Rodman will not listen to him. He won't listen to anybody--not his neighbors, the Police, etc. So, what makes the Rockets think that he would listen to them?
     
  4. fba34

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    the rockets (especially rudyt) would lose face if they signed rodman only to cut him mid season. how much better is rodman compared to kenny? or do we just want to add another player to the roster?
     
  5. Lynus302

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    Desparate times call for desparate measures.

    They could sign him veteran's minimum for a year. He'd provide what we need: rebounding and defense. If it doesn't work, release him. I wouldn't sign him for anything over a year, and I wouldn't put up with one instance of **** from him either.

    Personally, I think we have plenty of scoring options, but we're sadly lacking in the defensive and rebounding departments.

    I doubt it would happen, but I wouldn't object to the Rockets at least looking at him.

    He'd be better than Cato at least.
     
  6. fromobile

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    Well....

    One of the chief complaints that people have had with Dennis is that he doesn't take the time to learn his team's plays. the Rockets only have two plays, so maybe it's a match made in heavan.
     
  7. Holden

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    hey why not. we get a freak injury to our starting power forward so why not do a freak thing and sign a freak to take his spot. our season is blown anyway according to most of you people. we arent getting to the playoffs anymore according to you people. so why not experiment till next year when mo comes back. why not? where is the harm? we certainly arent ruining our title chances if it happens. and i know it wont happen either, (getting rodman)there is no way in hell our beautiful conservative coach takes him on. but i wouldnt mind if he did.

    :eek:
     
  8. treeman

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    You guys are nuts.

    Have you guys totally forgotten why no one will hire him in the first place? He has a little problem with wearing dresses on the court and kicking fans and camera men when they get in the way. I don't care how good of a rebounder and defensive player he is (was) - he's a headcase if there ever was one. There's a reason no one will hire him.

    The Rocks tend to hire pretty good guys, and avoid the bad ones when they see a problem. The Spurs have the same tradition. And ask Cuban what he feels his last mistake was... :rolleyes:
     
  9. Coach AI

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    I'm just glad to see this post was forced away from the "let's bash the newbie and/or ignore his point because we've been here longer."

    Jeez, it's not like he TYPED IN ALL CAPS with plenty of !!!! or forgthowto speellor usespacinga nd puncutashun!!!

    Good job to those of you who actually responded with some counter points to the guy.

    And, yeah, treeman is pretty much 100% right. Rodman is a <b>bad</b> idea. He has eroded to the point where his off-court baggage overshadows what he brought with him on the court.
     
  10. HayesStreet

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    There are always examples of players that party but get the job done, and Rodman has got to be tops on that list. Who knows if a couple of years out of the league has calmed Rodman down or not. He is an awesome rebounder not because of his physical skills, but because he has a nose for the ball. He studied tape to get the tendencies of his own teammates down. So his ability to rebound is not really diminished by his age. As per his headcaseness, there is no real way to tell. But he could definitely teach Griffin about rebounding and defense in the NBA, and that is not a bad thing! And he would be cheap! And people that say we need a scoring PF need to stop smoking crack, Karl Malone is not available and most of you didn't want Chris Webber. We aren't going to get a scoring PF, so an awesome defender and rebounder would be a nice addition. Also consider that Rodman CAN play Duncan, Robinson, and even Shaq, as well as anyone. Hell, he might even get Shaq ejected!

    As per 'team chemistry' and the young/old debate, I think the older gentlemen on the BBS have a tendency to rely on their fading (and revisionist) memories of their Little League days and Willie Stargell and 'We are family"-style team chemistry (or your Dad took you to see Mickey Mantle or whatever) when everyone shared their ice cream and wanted to be just like everyone else (you know who you are Baby Boomers+). Rodman's act irks you guys and I can't say I like it myself, but to deny his on the court genius might be shortsighted. I think if he had played for the Rox you guys wouldn't mind so much because he'd have been 'our' freak.

    I doubt Francis or Mobley or anyone would turn down a guy that could contribute significantly in rebounding and defense, while taking almost NO shots. The fact is it is not unusual to have eccentric personalities in professional sports, and they can contribute on the field/court either in addition to, or in spite of their celebrity. And for this year, he could definitely help get us into the playoffs. He can start the break with his superb outlet passes and keep our own guards from having to crash the boards. He gets Off Rebounds, and can matchup defensively with the other teams best inside threat.

    Add in that he would come cheap, and there you are...
     
  11. mr_oily

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    Rodman+attitude+GaynitelifeinHouston=trouble=waste of money


    no thanks
    :rolleyes:
     
  12. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    Deion Sanders hasn't played NBA ball YET. Let's give him a tryout.
     
  13. Dr of Dunk

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    This thread is funny. First, let me say that I'm a member of The Clique, I'm one of the 5000+ post posters, and timm only has 24 posts, so of course I'm disagreeing with him because he's a newbie.

    Now that that's out of the way...

    It amazes me how people always assume that Rudy T and the Rockets have magical qualities about them that "will make everything ok". The 2 laughable statements I enjoy the most go something like :

    "The Rockets can turn him around!"
    "The Rockets have a great tradition with big men!"


    The fact is, that Rodman is a nut whether by nature or by act. The fact is, that he can't hold a job because he can't control himself and he disobeys authority.
    The fact is, Rodman would turn a young, up-and-coming team into a circus act (like the he did the Mavs) and make Rudy look like an idiot. Oh sure, we'd get the media attention we all crave.

    Rodman's talent and tenacity on the court can't be denied, even in his last stint with the Mavs and even at his age. However, the circus that is Rodman and the lunacy he brings with him can't be denied, either.

    If we were just getting the talent, I'd be all for it, however some people bring baggage with them. In Rodman's case it's more like a cargo ship.
     
  14. HayesStreet

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    Hmmm....what does gaynitelifein Houston mean?

    (a) Happy times at night in Houston
    (b) Not exciting nitelife in Houston
    (c) Homosexual nitelife in Houston

    :confused:

    And maybe this team needs someone with attitude. All of the great teams had players that take no ****, ask for no quarter and give none. Who fills that role on the Rockets?
     
  15. mr_oily

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    Yes that would be Gay as in Gay Nite Life as in Good times at Gay Bars. Cmon, Rodman is a total *** Hag! There would be too much fun for him here in the largest Gay city in Texas if not the southern U.S.
    and attitude?well nevermind I didn't think anyone would confuse uh good or bad? what exactly do you mean mroily? Which one is it? uh...

    Anyhow, rodman would be a friggin joke in ANY team in the NBA fo'sho'!



    yeah this thread is funny:D , real funny:D
     
  16. kpsta

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    Not one to defend Rodman or get into the whole homophobia issue here... but, if you are going to use the term "*** Hag", at least know what it means... (referring to a female whose only friends are gay males). Now, if this is what you meant-- my apologies-- but if you want to crack on Rodman for his ambiguous sexuality, just remember that he's been with Madonna and Carmen Electra and you have not. (Now whether or not that is a good thing is another question, but a "*** Hag" is probably not the right word-choice...)
     
  17. A-Train

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    kpsta, those "gay friends" really aren't gay...They just tell the girl they are gay so she'll hang around them and let them see her in her underwear!

    Tina: Clarence, since you have no sexual interest in me whatsoever, do you think I look good in this new thong I got from Victoria's Secret?

    Clarence: (trying to hide his stiffy) Uhhh...y-y-yeah, Tina...You look...uhhh...pretty nice...mind if I use your bathroom?
     
  18. mr_oily

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    No, *** Hag is exactly what I meant. My ex girlfriend was a big *** Hag! I was joking, but its the truth! So what if he likes drag queens and all that good stuff. I really think he'd have a wonderful time here seeing as how houston is a really big Gay city. Talk about distractions for the guy!


    BTW, we're all adults here and nah, I 'm not homophobic either. Got tons of Gay friends and have lived here in H-town for 15 years...c'mon girl!
     
  19. Cohen

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    We have spent some time in LA, and he is pure wacko. He sat behind us at a restaurant in Huntington Beach and you would not even raise this topic if you saw him once in public. He is uncontrollable.

    Please let DoD have the final words on this.
     
  20. Sane

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    I think we can take a chance on Rodman. We're obviously not aiming for a title. Francis said he's not gonna go for rebounds as much. Mobley, Rice and Cato aren't the best defensive pr rebounding players.

    Rodman for 20 minutes a night.

    We can cut him in a sec if he ain't working. Why worry? If Rudy sees something he doesn't like, he's gone.

    I don't think he'd be such a bad idea. We have too many nice guys on our team. No banger, tough guy, dirty-work people.

    He may be a nutcase, and no management won't cure a player who hasn't been cured for 15+ years, but he gives us three valuable things:

    1) Defense
    2) Rebounding
    3) Doesn't demand the ball on offense

    Even if he's half the rebounder, half the defender, and half the scorer (if he scored at all) he was 4 or 5 years ago, then he'd be the best rebounder/defender in the team with more experience than anyone.


    It's not such a bad idea. If he's a bad influence, Rudy can simply cut him, I'm sure he won't lose sleep over 1M that could've put this team enough into the playoffs to keep Francis jolly and happy.


    If something good comes out of it, then great. If it doesn't, like everyone here says, we CUT him and he never sees another NBA team again.


    One thing: Why don't we go for Charles?

    Sure, he said he probably ain't comin back, but he hasn't stopped working out. He said he's not ready for an 82-game schedule (thought to be with the Wizards), but with the Rockets backed up by KT and Eddie Griffin, wouldn't be too bad would he?


    What do u guys think?
     

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