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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Sep 30, 2004.

  1. PhiSlammaJamma

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    I thought beans and chili were automatic. That's all I know. But I'm a Northeasterner.
     
  2. Blatz

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    A good can of chili does not exist.
     
  3. Nick

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    Neyer posted these stats a couple of nights ago:

    ____________K/9 IP
    2003 Gagne 14.98 82
    1999 Wagner 14.95 75
    1999 Benitez 14.77 78
    2004 Lidge 14.72 92 (this was as of a couple of nights ago)

    He said that while Lidge's K/9 isn't as good as the others, he has PITCHED MORE INNINGS, thereby theoretically "proving" it over a longer stretch.

    Thus, he argued that he could be the #1 strikeout pitcher.

    Also, he supported my nickname of "Lights Out Lidge" which somebody else suggested in an e-mail to him. (I wonder if that was a poster who saw it here?!?)
     
  4. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Lidge didn't even throw a slider, until he got hurt in the minors, and was forced to learn the pitch. He then pitched 13 innings with 18 K and 0.00 era after learning it.
     
  5. lost_elephant

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    Until today he was 151 ks in 92.1 innings.

    add 2 ks and 1 ip.

    153 ks / 93.1 ip

    =

    14.79 and that puts him 3rd on that list. nice.
     
  6. Nick

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    Yea... I remember hearing a story that he had a curveball that was even more devastating than his current slider, but it put too much stress on his arm, and because of all those injuries, he learned the less stressful slider.
     
  7. shawn786

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    I can taste the playoffs! Ohh so close just 2 games away :cool:
     
  8. Jebus

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    What do they taste like? Chili? Are there beans in it?
     
  9. Uprising

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    I like Hormel better. I didn't really like Wolf Chili the first, and only, time I had it. I might try it again sometime.

    Canned chili, IMO, tastes better with beans.
     
  10. Lil Francis

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    Lidge might be the best closer in the game. I know its only been 1year but the guy can't be touched in the 9th.
     
  11. Surfguy

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    I am so pissed. My power went out for the first 4 innings and the last 2 innings. What a f*cked up night!
     
  12. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Tomorrow, we play late so we'll know our fate heading into that game, and the next.
     
  13. xiki

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    I wish...Garner, who has done an EXCELLENT job, would have saved Lidge tonite (as he should have pulled Roy O an inning or TWO last start).

    If Duckworth never graces MMP's mound again that will be AOK with me.
     
  14. Nick

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    Huh? Save him for what?? April??

    There's no tommorow if the Astros lose any of these games... and with only a 2 run lead, and a very hot hitting team (keep in mind that Helton was left on deck in the 9th, with Burnitz following him), this is a tailor-made situation for your CLOSER.

    Now, if he was bringing in Lidge in the 7th, you may have had an argument... but with the off day yesterday, Lidge had more than enough to play today.

    Finally... he threw a grand total of 9 pitches. I think he'll be fine for the rest of the series.
     
  15. shawn786

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    I second this post
     
  16. RocketManJosh

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    Well at best the Astros are going to be up 1 game on Sunday .. Guess that means Clemens is going to be our starter
     
  17. rockets-#1

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    YES, ASTROS, YES!




    They better not ever trade or let Lidge walk.
     
  18. francis 4 prez

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    it's pretty close. in terms of their career, wager has a 2.55 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, and .186 BAA. lidge's numbers stand at 2.96, 1.14, and .200.

    lidge this season has a .176 BAA and a 1.93 ERA and .93 WHIP. amazing numbers. wagner is at 2.47/.78(!)/.183.

    in terms of his best season, in 1999 wagner's BAA was an unfreakinbelievable .135. an opponents OPS of .419 with a WHIP of .78 and ERA of 1.57. that is just a season for the ages. it seemed like his fastball was never faster and he could locate it wherever he pleased. he could paint both corners and get people out on the high fastball as well. he was so dominating it was ridiculous. even lidge's current year looks average compared to wagner in 1999.

    wagner was also amazing last year going 44 of 47 in saves, with a BAA of .169, an OPS of .499, a 1.78 ERA, and .87 WHIP.

    now obviously some of his other seasons weren't as good but wagner at his best outpaced lidge at his best (so far) by a solid amount on BAA. overall it's pretty close.

    i'm just glad they both pitched for us.
     
  19. Harrisment

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    Amen. If you're not gonna use your closer in a 2 run must win game, then when are you going to use him? :confused:
     
  20. Miguel

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    If Lidge comes in to pitch the next 2 games for 1 inning...and strikes out the side both times...that gives him an extra 6 Ks in 2.0 innings.



    Add 153 + 6 Ks

    Add 93 1/3 + 2 IP

    (159K / 95 1/3 IP) * 9

    15.01 K/9


    Come on Lidge! Strike out the side tonight and tomorrow!

    2004 Lidge 15.01 95.1 (projected)
    2003 Gagne 14.98 82
    1999 Wagner 14.95 75
    1999 Benitez 14.77 78
     

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