Rockets: Yao, Not McGrady, Determines Fate of Team

I think that should make him lose weight not gain it

 

what happened? did Bonzi eat LES

 

tmac's J was on and off all season. it was on mostly at the TC. it was still at th TC while he was in utah. he better get his rhythm and fixes it for next yr

 

he's not in great shape to start the season. and he played 2 months to get in decent shape then got injured. so he was never really in shape -> so he was never that explosive.

tmac's jumper is all about his lift. last yr, when he didn't have his legs, he would most often "push" the ball as u saw in that phoenix game where he sucked. we all were sayin what the hell was he doing w/ that J and that stroke?

tmac needs to get lighter. as a result, he can get more lift on his jumper and thus as a result, more arc, and thus a better shot. he got more arc as the season went on but his J was still inconsistent b/c he never got into a rhythm.

basketball is a rhythm thing. that's why players shoot 1000 of jumpers all offsesaon. kobe takes like 500 a day or something like that.

i play basketball. if i don't play a lot, i lose the rhythm and takes a while to get it back.

 

um, did u read what i said? if kobe wasn't selfish and palyed his role, the blame would have been on shaq more. but kobe hogged all the spotlight and totally dissed shaq. and also, kobe said he wouldn't resign and was contemplating free agency so his selfishness that series was more magnified.

the blame is for different things u know. kobe got al lthe spotlight for the rape trial that season, was he the best player??? UM I DON'T THINK SO.

sheesh.

 

On the heights......

1. Battier measured over 6-9 in shoes (probably another reason some people think he could play PF) and chose barefoot listing instead of shoe listing so considering T-Mac is slouching in that image next to him, T-Mac's at least 6-9 in shoes IMO.

2. Scola is not 6-8 3/4, he's constantly listed at 2.06 m which is 6-9 1/2, and usually foreign players are listed without shoes, so Scola should be about an inch shorter than Duncan. Because BTW, Duncan measured 6-10 1/2 not 6-10 barefoot in his draft measurement.

Scola, in other words has very good size for a power forward. He's the same height as Dwight Howard who says he's exactly 6-9 1/2 after he totally stopped growing. Amare says after he totally stopped growing is 6-9 1/4. So Scola is a BIG power forward not just a legit sized power forward.

What you have to keep in mind is that when you look at a draft measurement listing, it MAY BE A TYPO. An example of this is Yao's first measurement was 7- 5 1/2 barefoot yet was a typo at 7-5. The Chronicle had to clear that one up because it was causing all this confusion on was he or wasn't he 7-6, etc. He never was listed by shoe height, he's always chosen barefoot listing.

Another thing you need to keep in mind is that some of the high school draftees could have grown after their draft listing. Simply assuming that the listings for guys 17-19 years old is the same as guys 22-24 years old as far as being accurate accounting for no continued growth is wrong.

Ones I know that have been reported in the papers, Amare grew from 6-8 1/2 to 6- 9 1/4. Dwight grew from 6-9 to 6-9 1/2. So because their draft listing says 6 -8 1/2 and 6-9 are we simply to ignore that they both actually ended up growing another half inch?

I know I was told by my doctor that boys stop growing at age 18 and that at age 18 I was simply "done growing." Everything "official" will say this. Well I know that's BS. All my friends stopped growing in fact I would say between ages 16-18, most guys at my high school stopped growing at 17-18.

But I didn't. I was 6-0 even barefoot at age 17. 6-0 1/2 at age 18. Then I stayed 6-0 1/2 until age 24, when suddenly I grew half an inch to 6-1. Then I stayed 6-1 until age 28 when I grew to 6-2.

I'm 30 now and I'm about 6- 2 1/2 barefoot.

So I have grown a good 2 to 2 1/2 inches since age 17 to 18. And I'm nowhere near as tall as T-Mac. So it's very believable to me that he grew 2 to 3 inches over the last 10 years, and is like me. While the other NBA high schoolers only grew half an inch or so or didn't grow at all. Also because of that it would mean that using 5 to 10 year old images isn't accurate.

Would it be accurate to use an image of me when I was 18 versus now to compare height? No. Maybe for most people it would, but for me it would be way off.

You have to realize that SOME people grow differently than other people. I'm 30 and I'm still growing.


And my body type isn't even like T-Mac's, and I'm white, so I think there can be many people that may grow this way. Sort of a slower or delayed onslaught of growth.

Duncan incidentally when he came in at 6-10 1/2 barefoot also had some typo listing at 6-10, everyone always chooses the shorter listing by default. But that only works if it was two separate measurements because heights change on time of day. It does not work when it was a simple typo of forgetting to add the half inch.

Duncan came in at 7-0 even in shoes on his draft measurement. Under league rules he could choose shoe height or barefoot height. Originally he chose shoe height to be a "true" 7 footer. That's why for years he was listed at 7-0 and don't argue it because most everyone nows he was.

The he decided to choose barefoot listing because people started nagging on him after Robinson left and why would he not play center, don't all 7 footers play center or is he too soft to play center?

He requested the change to his barefoot height listing. Which is 6-11 because they take barefoot height and round up if it is half an inch or more, and Duncan is 6-10 1/2 barefoot. Thus he was then the last few years suddenly 6-11.

So if you want to judge the heights, Duncan is 6-10 1/2 barefoot or right around 7-0 even in shoes.

Based on that, I don't know how anyone could look at those images and not conclude T-Mac is a good 6-9 in shoes and thus he is MUCH taller than 6-6 1/4 barefoot. You are short changing him a good 2 inches my friend. 6-10 in shoes may be an exaggeration one way but 6-7 in shoes is more of an exaggeration the other way.

BTW, I have seen an official FIBA listing of the barefoot heights once in a guide at the Olympics and it was for all registered players not just for players competing. Keep in mind the FIBA barefoot listing actually updates, so it doesn't just include an original listing but accounts for a final height growth.

I wrote down some of the heights:

Duncan 2.0955 m (6-10 1/2 barefoot)

He chooses barefoot listing and since NBA rounds up if it is half an inch or more he gets listed at 6-11 by NBA

Garnett 2.11455 m (about 6-11 1/4 barefoot)

He chooses barefoot listing so 6-11 by NBA

Dirk 2.13 m (about 6-11 6/7 barefoot)

Foreign player so he gets listed 7-0 by NBA

Shaq 2.17 m (just below 7-1 1/2 barefoot)

Under NBA rules if he chooses barefoot listing he STILL gets listed 7-1 not 7-2 because he actually isn't quite to the half an inch

Mutombo 2.18 m (about 7-1 4/5 barefoot)

He's a foreign player so he gets listed 7-2 by NBA

Yao 2.28 m (just a tad above 7-5 3/4 barefoot)

He's a foreign player so NBA lists him as being 7-6

Bradley 2.29 m (around 7-6 even, a little over)

He chooses barefoot listing so 7-6 listing in NBA

Believe it or not that MATCHES NBA listings.

Foreign players get barefoot listing usually.

Dirk then indeed 7-0.

Yao then indeed 7-6.

Garnett and Duncan it is no secret have both chosen barefoot listings as is allowed in NBA rules because as has long been known didn't want to be thought of as "7 footers" because they play center and "soft" 7 footers play power forward.

NBA rounds up the barefoot height listings if it's half an inch or more.

So yep......

Duncan would be listed 6-11

Garnett would be listed 6-11

So to me since Duncan is 6-10 1/2 barefoot and Garnett is 6-11 1/4 barefoot and Dirk is just barely under 7 feet even barefoot then come on, you really think T-Mac is only like 6-6 1/4 barefoot?

I don't think so.

Also I notice that from these FIBA listings the smaller players seem to generally choose height with shoes plus rounded up for NBA listing while the big guys generally choose barefoot height.

A lot of people think all the bigs heights are inflated but it's not really true, it's mainly the guards usually. It seems the smaller guys don't want to be seen as "little in the NBA" and the big guys do not want to be seen as "freaks."