Rockets will NOT match the Chandler Parsons offer sheet

I agree.

Now Dirk leaving ignoring max offers to sign a 3-year deal worth about half of Parsons's 3-year deal? THAT should be investigated.

 

I see some warts on Morey also, but I really think the blame should go on Morey, the general manager, not analytics generally, which is just a tool. I agree that the low value Morey seems to set on continuity may be damaging to the team's ability to compete. I think his manner of treating players like assets and not making them feel loved and valued by the organization probably contributes to both the player defections and reluctance of free agents to come sign with us. No one will sign a sweetheart deal with Morey like Duncan did for Pop or Dirk did for Cuban. But those things aren't so (to whatever degree they're true) because Morey uses a lot of analytics. It's because of the rest of Morey's managerial style. A GM can do a lot of number-crunching and analytical work and be clever with the CBA and still maintain team continuity and make players feel valued and loyal. To whatever extent Morey fails, it's not a flaw in analytics.

 

"Cry me a river..."

 

Chandler Wang....perfect!

 

These are the sentiment some of us have with Morey's approach.

Saying that analytics and Morey's shrewdness in deals didn't help bring in talents is just blind hate. But I do think that the constant flipping of "assets" is hampering efficiency of building a contender.

Morey may never admit it. But the way he goes about building the team seems to assume that if you just get enough good players, you'll win. So the two main strategies for him are (1) keep flipping role players to make incremental improvement, and (2) keep shooting for "elite" players.

However, to do (2), he has to sacrifice the quality of (1) in order to maintain the all-important flexibility. So what we witness is that (1) seems to be just a spinning wheel. You get better a little one season. Then you get worse a little the next because we have to shoot for (2).

And all the time, those intangible things called "chemistry" and "loyalty" are being thrown out of the window. As fans, we are asked to cheer for some guys now, and then say goodbye to them and cheer for some other guys the next year.

 

I mostly agree with you. I would love to have a "team" that we could grow into but the reality is (my actually grip on reality is loose at best I'll admit) every team goes through this process until the stars and the supporting cast are in place.

When the team gets it right by paying stars what stars are worth and supporting cast was the support is worth then you've got a chance. When you make a mis-step at any of these goals you end up in NBA purgatory.

Even when you get it right there's no guarantee. So not only do you need the pieces but you need a little luck as well.

The Spurs have been the outlier for what it could look like. The Thunder are still not there.

Morey's gamble is that Chandler isn't and will never become an all-star. He can't help it that Cuban wants to pay stupid money to Chandler. I don't think anyone other than Cuban thinks that Chandler is worth that kind of money.

 

Poor Cuban and Mavs fans. Let them rejoice now. Joke's on them!

Over/under on Dallas feeling buyer's remorse on Parsons? I'll say... 5 months

 

Get over it! He's gone and he ain't coming back.

Well, maybe he will come back... 6-7 seasons from now. Morey likes the retreads.

 

It won't be that soon. It'll probably be going into next season, after next year's off-season. If his production doesn't drastically improve, there's going to be a LOT of questions about the amount of his deal, and how untradeable he is.

 

They admitted that they paid too much. Parsons will have a hard time getting another contract that size (unless he plays better than we expect). I don't think his next contract will be anywhere near the one he just signed. If he plays out the next three years, he'll be 28 at the peak of his career and Dallas won't sign him to that kind of money a second time.

He has now priced himself out of the market for his next contract. It will impact his future earning potential. Unless he is going to give Dallas a discount going forward.

 

Don't matter. He's got 45 mil coming RIGHT NOW.

I'm sure Cuban paid an extra $5mil/yr for the likability/marketability of Parsons. It's Dallas afterall.

 

End of the day, the market was dictated by Haywards contract. It set a bar that was going to happen.

 

I don't think that makes sense. Players can sign for lower amounts than their previous contract.

 

Another huge plus: had we matched, Lance would've definetely signed with Dallas for 2 years 20 million!! Source: ESPN article

 

If there's one thing I can't stand in a player is trying to take credit for things they haven't done yet. So, Chandler works hard. We get that. Don't most players work hard? That doesn't guarantee he will be a premier player. All we can go by is what he has done so far. And, while there has been some good play from him especially on the offensive side, I haven't seen anything that says he is a franchise player. The arrogance on this guy is unbelievable. He talks about himself like he's the next Michael Jordan or something. I understand being confident. What I don't understand is trying to take that kind of credit only 3 years in with only decent stats. I would like to see him be a top ten or twenty player in this league. But, he has a long way to go. I know he is all about "proving his doubters wrong" but no one is really doubting he is talented and can play at a high level. But, trying to say he thinks he's elite only 3 seasons in the league is just mind boggling. I wish him luck in his pursuit of franchise player perfection. Please do prove Morey and company wrong. Be the top player on the Mavs. Take them to the finals and win it all on your shoulders you elite player you.

 

thumbs up for this one.
men need a bit of modesty

 

Gawd I hope not. I hope the mavs crash and burn. Go rockets.

 

I agree with you. The discontinuity of the roster bothers me a great deal. It takes time for synergy to develop within a team. It can take years. You don't see teams made up of future Hall of Famers and All Stars anymore, the Celtics and the Lakers back in the day that some of us remember well, being obvious examples, who didn't need a great deal of time to come together, because they were just that good (and even worse, they had that time, dammit!). It's hard now with 30 teams. Probably more in the future, as greedy as the NBA is for more, more, and more. Of everything, especially money, from everywhere.

If Morey has a glaring fault, in my opinion, it's exactly what you pointed out. He doesn't value continuity as much as he should. Daryl needs to work a bit on that.

 

Repped. But I have been giving rep to all Chandler hate. (HINT)