1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

  2. Watching NBA Action
    It's Game 3 between the Knicks and Pacers in Indiana. Join us as we watch the NBA playoffs together...

    LIVE: NBA Playoffs!
    Dismiss Notice

Rockets will hold DMo to contract

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by finsraider, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,217
    Likes Received:
    33,086
    The reason I don't think this is correct is that the contract calls for a $5m payment upon execution, which obviously has not happened. So, I don't believe there is a contract, only a binding agreement and that Dmo is the Rockets property - but is not signed.

    DD
     
  2. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    24,055
    Likes Received:
    19,985
    That's right. Well if BJ and DMo are dumb enough to risk entering back in RFA now WITHOUT the Jazz being involved than they really are dumber than I originally thought. They really have to be acting this way because they THINK they have other options.
     
  3. bulkatron

    bulkatron Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2014
    Messages:
    3,421
    Likes Received:
    2,104
    Scola didn't have D Mo's injury history. It's not fair at all to D Mo, but if he was really not an injury risk he could have taken the QO or even the non-guaranteed deal and turned that into a huge payday as a UFA.
     
    Exiled likes this.
  4. snowconeman22

    snowconeman22 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    14,059
    Likes Received:
    16,011
    Hmm Armstrong ... That's an Irish name . I did a little research and found out that BJ is not actually named BJ.. That's right his real name is Seamus
     
  5. bongman

    bongman Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    4,213
    Likes Received:
    1,411
    Those are just the 3 teams that we know of that are willing to throw him that kind of money (offer sheets). I understand your last statement and I agree with you. Just because somebody is willing to pay you tons of money for an item or service, does not necessarily mean that is a fair market value as others might be willing to pay higher/lower. The value of a million for millionaires is different from how us commoners view it.
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    86,326
    Likes Received:
    84,857
    That's wonderful verbiage to point to in order to clear something up.
     
  7. Brown Lost It

    Brown Lost It Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2016
    Messages:
    2,619
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    I wonder what D-Mo is thinking. He knows he can't play for any other NBA team or outside of the NBA. He is under contract with the Rockets for $31 million if he just shows up and does his job.

    Is he thinking should I just go to practice? Or should I call them and tell them I want to play.

    He might be thinking of half assing the season, taking the $9 million and pulling a Royce White...maybe sign a 1 year deal with the largest bidder in the NBA (possibly overseas, but that's not smart) and hoping he can finally cash out after.
     
    Stormy1234 likes this.
  8. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    26,392
    Likes Received:
    29,573
    The problem is that where DMo is at now, he can't waste time crying over spilled milk. He can't field offers from other teams anymore.

    If you're saying $1M is worth less to a millionaire, he should take $30M+ and quit striking over $6M.

    If you're saying $1M is worth more to a millionaire, he should take the $30M+. That's a lot of money. :)
     
  9. ooooaaaah!

    ooooaaaah! Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2013
    Messages:
    1,364
    Likes Received:
    128
    Semen? Now I know where the B.J. "came" from. I think the other side of the body is more fitting to what he is.
     
  10. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,577
    Likes Received:
    56,318
    well, basketballholic did say it was Morey's next move.

    As Coon's revised interpretation says, they either did that, or he is "deemed under contract" by an active FREN.

    Either way, it appears Coon is agreeing that if you are on the team roster, you must be deemed under contract or on contract..
     
  11. HeWhoIsLunchbox

    HeWhoIsLunchbox Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2008
    Messages:
    3,406
    Likes Received:
    241
    Scola was an iron man and was honestly just a much better player than Motiejunas is currently.
     
    subtomic and MrSabotage like this.
  12. jsingles

    jsingles Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2016
    Messages:
    5,226
    Likes Received:
    3,562
  13. Amel

    Amel Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    10,528
    Likes Received:
    5,491
    New DMo thread?

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Brown Lost It

    Brown Lost It Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2016
    Messages:
    2,619
    Likes Received:
    1,620
    Yeah, but Scola was still a role playing PF who had some nice post moves and wasn't the best defender? D-Mo can at least knock down the 3-ball and he's 7 feet tall giving him more advantages on defense (well, Scola did draw charges well).

    The point is, D-Mo would easily get that and some under this new cap if he was not injured.
     
  15. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,577
    Likes Received:
    56,318
    Coon has recanted that, because he did not realize the Rockets put DMo on the Roster. Keep up with the updates. Coon has gone back to his original interpretation that DMo is "deemed under contract" now

    So I don’t know what’s going on with that roster sheet. Maybe something else happened that we don’t know about — for example, the Rockets are still within their rights to waive the physical, which would complete the match and make him a member of the Rockets. Or maybe he IS considered to be a member of the Rockets while the First Refusal Exercise Notice is still pending a physical — as I said, I think there’s room for interpretation here, and Daryl Morey certainly knows more about the situation than I do. Or maybe they just did it as a subtle message to D-Mo and Armstrong that the game’s over.
    So all said. You are absolutely, right, that technical DMo hasn't signed anything. We still don't really know if the two sides can alter the contract or not. I'm now leaning to that Watkins source was wrong. There was no ability to change Principal Terms of the contract, and the waive date was a Principal Term
     
  16. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,525
    Plus he was flat out a better player.

    1. Sola was a much better post player and player in general compared to D-Mo. He was a better rebounder, post scorer, midrange shooter, free throw shooter, and in light of the current situation, has much higher integrity. The only advantages D-Mo has utilized his height for is his hook shot and positional rim defense. He definitely hasn't done squat on the rebounding end.

    2. D-Mo would have gotten what Scola got under this new cap provided he was injured. Well guess what, he was injured and Scola never was. Also, under this new cap, prime Scola would have gotten far more himself as well, so not sure what point you are trying to make here. Under the old cap, D-Mo definitely wouldn't have gotten anywhere near what Scola got.
     
  17. MrButtocks

    MrButtocks Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2005
    Messages:
    7,274
    Likes Received:
    5,184
    If certain things happened, DMo would be making a lot more money than Scola, sure. But Scola was averaging 16/9 in 33 minutes and hadn't missed a single game when he hit free agency. In fact, he's missed only 15 games in his entire career. DMo has never come close to averaging those numbers and only averaged 6/3 last year in a season shortened due to recovery from back surgery.

    DMo might be frustrated, but the market is not acting irrationally here.
     
    MrSabotage likes this.
  18. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,525
    Assuming they get paid the same time and both are in their prime or close in age, D-Mo will never make more than Scola. Scola has been a beast since he came into the league, whereas D-Mo has only had one good "season".
     
  19. bongman

    bongman Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    4,213
    Likes Received:
    1,411
    I agree that he is in a disadvantage right now when it comes to options and he is digging his own grave. Les is a lot more richer than him and should be able to better absorb a $6M hit financially. Should we ask him to give him that extra money?

    Point being, whether we agree or not that 6M difference is a huge or minimal disagreement, the 2 parties are not on the same page for whatever their reasons are. It wouldn't be fair for us to suggest that party X should give in because <fill in your reasons> as it is difficult to tell what is going on their heads.
     
  20. DrNuegebauer

    DrNuegebauer Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2000
    Messages:
    11,923
    Likes Received:
    8,507
    Scola just came off an 18ppg season when he signed that deal, and was a versatile scorer in the post or from 18 feet, and always shot over 50% from the field on his career, and hustled hard on defence.
    DMo just came off a 6ppg season on 43% from the field where a trade was rescinded because his back was no good, apart from one good month (November 2014) is a very bad defender who falls over a lot. He was getting the money on potential, and he should've run with it...
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now