Living in SA now, I rarely get to see Bill and Calvin except the very few times they're picked up on League Pass. They are by far one of the best basketball announcing teams I have ever seen, in large part because their relationship seems so sincere that nothing comes off as staged or phony. I've never gotten to see any of Coop's work so I won't criticize or praise her work, but I've really wanted to watch her because I'd like to see if it's as bad as people here have been saying since last season. Perhaps she's like another great player/personality who was absolutely one of the worst ever when he tried being a color analyst....Magic Johnson. I was so glad when NBC(?) ended that experiment. Tim, if you're still out there, are you at least able to comment on whether Calvin would be brought back if he's cleared of the problems he's facing? Whoever the Rockets decide to hire, I would hope that it would be with the understanding that Calvin gets his job back if he's cleared. I hope that a good number of Rocket fans would agree with me that Calvin is indeed that good and a vital part of the Rockets' broadcasts.
I would suggest Mike Newlin as Calvins replacement but if the same guy who is responsible for replacing Lisa Malosky with Cooper is the same guy who will be responsible for hiring someone to replace Calvin Murphy then really whats the use. can someones judgement be so damn poor one year then so great the next? If Newlin was hired, the Cynthia Cooper debacle would be forgotten. But I know its not gonna happen. why make such a wise decision like that? especially when there is Cynthia Cooper to consider. I know what the thinking is here: Joe-six-pack-at-home didn't buy a ticket so why not mercilessly ram Cooper in his brain everytime he sits down to experience one of the few pleasures left in the world. Its ok even though that watching his beloved Houston Rockets while having to listen to Cynthia Cooper is like asking him to make love to his wife while his mother-in-law sits nearby filing her fingernails...... nekid. If Cynthia Cooper is sitting next to Worrell next year, I will never watch another game. Its not a threat, its just the way its gonna be. damn I can't believe they would even consider this.
Jesus H Christ.... dont any of you people actually read the thread you are replying to?? Tim has said a couple of times at least that this is a false rumor....it has no basis iin fact..... IT AINT HAPPENING! hello? is this mic on??
Oh, wait - is this the first volley in the new "Three tier" broadcast plan ... TIER 1 : "Free" : Cyn Cooper and friends. TIER 2 : "Only $ 9.99/mo" : Hagedorn and Malosky TIER 3 : "ONLY 29.99/Mo." : Worrell, Power Dancers, "special invited guests" ------------------ I also want to complain about Matt "Vanilla" Bull. He has very little to offer. Mr. platitude. I'd like a little more color in my color guy, thank you very much. That was something good about Calvin, beyond his cartoonish persona. He wasn't afraid to mix mix in some criticism, while still being upbeat and enjoyable. He understood the fun of being a spectator, and how to keep the broadcast interesting, with insight and an infectious curiosity and interest in the proceedings.
NOOOOOO WORST DECISION EVAH!!!11!!!!! though if it were true my post would definitely look something like that.
i bet if this thread never happened, weeks from now, right before preseason begins, you guys would be reading a small article in the Houston Chronicle by David Baron stating the Rockets have hired Cynthia Cooper to replace Calvin Murphy. Then it would all be too late. having Cynhtia cooper near any microphone and headset in toyota center is a dangerous thing. I won't feel safe till there is a restraining order keeping her at a safe distance away from Bill Worrell, all headsets and microphones, and all tv cameras, while she is in the Toyota center.
Believe me, it was gonna happen! thanks to Clutch, it may not. I don't trust any person or group of people who have such poor judgment that they have Cynthia Cooper doing the halftime shows and are pleased enough to bring her back, even if it is just doing the halftime shows again. Maybe its me with the poor judgment, maybe it just seems like everythings upside down here, and my not being able to endure one halftime show of the Rockets last year was because of my unwillingness to accept something repulsively fresh. So she's back, and its just the halftime show?.... I'll try to endure 1 or 2 of them this year.
Clutch's sources tend to be on the money. If Bullard isn't hired it's a travesty. The guy has had to do color for the Comets games. Please stop the torture and bring him up to the majors. He's earned it and is a fan favorite.
Well Stoke.....you and I will just have to agree to disagree. You are a half-empty type of person, while I am the opposite. Tim said it wasnt being considered, so I am inclined to believe him...while you always think the Rockets brass are gonna screwup anything they touch... Nothing in Tim's posting history would tell me that he would come on and lie to us....why would you think otherwise? anyway....Im not saying that I like Coop doing the games...you talk about seeing one or two?...well,,,I record and edit EVERY game and I have to sit thru the halftime show so I can tell what to edit and what to leave.....feel pity for me...
Coop was terrible at the beginning but she did get better. I still don't want her doing play-by-play (luckily that rumor has been disspelled). And I still prefer Lisa Malosky over Coop even though Coop is a great person from what I've seen.
Wow - Can we write our congress person about this? Here's the positive spin. If you had to chose between T-Mac/Cooper or No T-Mac/Cooper we would pick the former. That being said, who do we e-mail? Air Bullard is soooooooo much better . . .
Stoke, you're deluded. Please don't tell me you believe that this board's general opinion of Cooper is a secret. Tim
this is like the deduction that was going on with what "really happened" with the Boozer situation. It's hard to reconcile Clutch's typically on the money informtion with Tim's firm refutation of the rumor. I think this is a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. Clutch has a contact, who for whatever reason, that thought Coop was going to do color. This contact must be a solid one, but not as high as Tim, b/c Tim can come out and crush the rumor with authority. if Clutch's source was sending out a test balloon, it was not with Tim's knowledge. But that's somewhat abusive of Clutch. Tim you're right, we do tend to pile on. But my lord. Cooper is just horrible. The following is for my own entertainment purposes. Jeff (edit, I had typed Tim on accident) Hagedorn: Coop, what did you think of the first half. Coop: Jeff, I thought that MoTaylor came out with intensity and leadership. He was a leader. He came out there and led the team, and was intense. Wow, what intensity and leadership. Jeff Hagedorn: And Steve Francis also had a good first half. Coop: Wow. I mean what can I say about Steve. Wow. He is such a strong leader and plays with intensity. Um, and that's what you have to do as a leader, you have to lead and play with intensity. Wow. (gesturing with the "raise the roof" hands). I mean, wow. Intensity. Wow. [ . . . break for commercial . . . ] Jeff Hagedorn: And we're back. Coop, what are your thoughts on the 2nd half? Coop: The Rockets have to get the ball inside to Yao. Inside-outside. They have to get the ball to Yao. And then the ball comes out. First inside, then outside. That's what coach, um, Jeff has been stressing. Inside, then outside. so, that's what you have to do, inside outside. Jeff Hagedorn: What else Coop? Coop: They have to play with, um, intensity. Boy, it's so great to see the intensity. [gesticulating wildly with hands, face and body]. And tonight, you can see the intensity. Wow. Wow. [Raise the roof hands]. Intensity. Wow. ok, i've embarassed myself now. sorry, sensitive topic.
Tim, sorry for the diatribe above, but a question related to your point. Does this board's opinion reflect that of the rest of rocket's fandom? i'm guessing this board is comprised more of the computer keyboard massaging types . . . folks with office jobs, students, yao fans. where as the masses that comprise the TV audience may have kinder view of Coop. I've always heard that TV caters to the lowest common demonator, and if true, I can see how Coop might then be a viable candidate. After all, frequently, TV trainwrecks generate ratings, even if people hate the show. Apathy is the death knell of a show/broadcast. if people have strong feelings, either way, that's good b/c they tune in? dunno if any of that is true, but i have heard it.
Great question. And yes, your instincts are correct. Based on the feedback we get from the viewing audience at large, their opinion of Cooper is generally much better than the opinion of her on this board. I'm not saying that it's all raving positives. But on this particular issue, the opinion on the board tends to be on the extreme negative end. Which is a good point to mention that while clutchfans.net is a very important source of fan feedback (and there are quite a few issues where this board has had a direct impact on decisions), it isn't the only source we use to get a pulse on fans. Tim
How funny is that there are so many b****ing and whining from the fans who probably never catch a Houston Rockets games mostly due to living else where. My point is that most people follow what other people opinions and tend to agree on what they hardly know about but through other peoples opinions.
Tim, Thanks for the response. I know Coop is big with the community, particularly kids. orgs are smart, or getting smarter. market like McDonalds. Get the kids, and they'll harass the parent's enough that they get to go. Since Coop is big with kids and families, I can see how she is being kept on the half time show. Heck, the little "lovable" videos are probably more interesting to some of the kids than the game itself. and i probably sound somewhat condescending, but i'm not trying to be. it's just that the kids want certain things, like Barney, which annoy the living heck out of adults. You combine that with the fact that sports nuts tend to be obsessive and seriously opinionated, then. . . . you have the backlash llike you do here. I'm guessing b/c of this, Calvin will never broadcast for the Rox or anyone again. Regardless of whether his kids are lying, they have effectively ruined him.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Something must be done. Can we protest outside the tv station or something?
i live in NY and get nbatv. i probably watched about 75 of the 82 games last year. i could care less if everyone loved coop, she's horrendous. she ranks up there with steven a. smith and tom tolbert as the most irritating nba analysts/commentators i've ever heard.
