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Rockets turned down first-round pick offers for Eric Gordon

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Exactly this is MIND NUMBING that EGO has become Stone's wubby....

    DD
     
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  2. PWR

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    Sigh...
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  3. YOLO

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    still true months later and will continue to be
     
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  4. ThatBoyNick

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    Green
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    Gordon
    Banchero
    Sengun or Wood

    Yeah we care about defense alright lol
     
  5. SamFisher

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    The only thing I can figure is if they were being offered really bad contracts in return to make the salaries match.

    But, if that's the reason and the Rockets are leaking to the press anyway, leak that reason!

    It's way more justifiable and less pathetic than "oh no, we don't want to get stuck with too much draft capital, we're rebuilding!"
     
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  6. Plowman

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    You have got to be kidding me - I would hope this is posturing before FINALLY doing a deal. I always assumed EG would be good for these guys at first, but he should have been gone by now. One other thing that I worry about...the powers that be leaving the pure rebuild...and making moves to compete too soon. Ergo keeping him...probably not, but who knows...
     
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  7. Williamson

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    Listen, I agree with you that right now we don't need a third pick in this year's draft and we damn sure don't need one at the bottom of the 1st round. BUT where we disagree is that I think you take that pick anyway for one simple reason: As Daryl Morey once said, draft picks are like cigarettes in prison. They are the currency of the NBA.

    There is a whole lot of talk about trying to move up from 17. If we had say, the 27th pick, it sure would be a lot more likely we could do that. So I think when you take on an asset, there are more questions to ask than "Is this what we need right now?". You have to look at the bigger picture and how other teams would view that asset and what you can potentially do with it.
     
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  8. CK Johnson

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    #FreeGordon
     
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  9. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    I think it would be easier to use Gordon or Wood to move up than a crappy low pick.
     
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  10. Joe Joe

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    The reason EG wasn't traded is that the Rockets want to trade for a star player. A late 2022 FRP has very low value and doesn't provide significantly affect the Rockets ability to acquire a star or improve much. EG's salary on the other hand, while not valuable by itself, is possibly very useful combined with actual valuable draft picks for a star.

    I am not optimistic that the Rockets will be able to get a star the moment they get cap space. I doubt that the salary the Rockets would have had to take back would be as useful as EG's which gives the option for a trade or expire at the perfect time to open up cap space.

    While odds are that a trade won't happen that requires EG's salary, a late 2022 FRP is a very small opportunity cost.

    Caveat: I don't think the late picks this year will be worth much more than scratch off lottery tickets, and likely wouldn't be able to be traded for a future FRP. I probably wouldn't have traded EG to a contender out of spite for a late 2022 FRP even if EG's salary wasn't valuable for trades. The pick is unlikely to help Rockets much and the contender hurt their chances at a championship. I would not want to set the precedent that other teams could play hard ball in trades and the Rockets would settle for something that they don't really need.
     
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  11. htownborn34

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    Not to mention it depends on what happens with the 17 pick. What if we select one of Eason, Dieng, Brown, Jovic, etc…
     
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  12. Williamson

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    I don't. Maybe it would with Portland or Sacramento who are both trying to win now, but most of the teams with higher picks are looking for young talent, not vet role players.
     
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    I hope u are right. The flip side to that coin is that EG is an aging injury prone player who has been shooting very inconsistently over the last several seasons. Last year he shot near career highs and was pretty healthy. If you remember the season before last, he got injured and became untradeable. So that’s a real risk.

    I get that a late 2022 pick doesn’t have a ton of value given that we have a log jam of young players that I guess we have chosen not to consolidate, but if we did make some decisions we could have a spot for a Christian Braun type player. I certainly would rather have a late 1st round 2022 pick on the roster than Deshaun Nix for example. Maybe u trade 17 but are able to get the guy you want at 25 with that late pick?

    I sincerely hope he fetches the equivalent of a 1st in next yrs draft or a significant leap in draft position, but I suspect EG’s value was at its highest last year at the deadline and a late 1st round is not something to turn your nose up at. Is EG as a trade piece worth more than a late 1st rounder in this draft? We’ll find out. I have my doubts.
     
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    It was clear to me when Eric G posted his favorite Htown rap lyrics that homie was not going to leave. Rockets have accommodated every veteran player that wanted out to their preferred destinations. Eric wants to retire a Rocket and so do the Rockets. I just fear it's going to be the same with Wood.



    Banchero will start from the bench until some groin bothers Eric. Dieng will go to the G league.
     
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    If we are trying to be a “family” that does right by its players, I cringe to compare what EG has done for the org to what Christian Wood has done. Accommodating them the same way is just plain frieghtening.
     
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    I feel like stone is trying to change how players view the rockets, when Morey was in charge everyone was views as an asset, if you were not a star level player and I think morey was very open about it. JJ reddit talked about how he wanted to sign with the rockets when CP3 was traded here, but because of how morey wanted to set his contract up he went some where else.
     
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    Wood, Wall and Gordon should be traded for picks or 3&D players. I don't know what the management/ownership expects to get for them.
     
  18. D-rock

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    I'm an EGo truther and defense first advocate but even I would rather have a late FRP than the possibility of EGo in starting lineup on a rebuilding team.

    Stone and Silas are clueless.

     
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  19. MystikArkitect

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    Lol Banchero is not starting from the bench.
     
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  20. Amel

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    Is TIlman massaging EGs balls?

    Holy smoke, get the guy to a contender and free up space
     

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