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Rockets trying to get Anthony Randolph...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Tom Bombadillo, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. delta69er

    delta69er Member

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    theres this thing where ppl say something that they dont actually mean so as to incite humor within a certain situation with the hope that the incipience of that humor would lead to laughs...this was one of those situations. (And i still dont want randolph i hear hes lazy and has a bad attitude)
     
  2. LongTimeFan

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    The Zach Randolph worry is a fair point. But at the same time -- are you saying you wouldn't want to trade the 20th pick for a young Zach Randolph that can be locked up into a friendly contract assuming he does indeed develop along that line? That'd be awfully tempting for me -- especially seeing as it would only cost THEIR draft pick (2012). Then we'd have our (maybe) lottery pick this year + our pick the following year should we fully commit to rebuilding and wind up in the lottery again. In that instance, he would be a supporting player to hopefully a star we were able to pick up with our assets.

    But what would stop the Rockets from pairing Anthony Randolph with our 2011 1st rounder to move up? If he can gets some playing time on our team and raise his trade value, he seems like he would be a pretty tempting bargaining chip.

    What does Anthony Randolph and the #14th pick, for example, get you? In my mind, it's more than Jordan Hill and the #14th would.. but of course it all depends on how he produces. Much better skillset than Jordan Hill.. but probably just as low of an IQ, which is of course part of your worry.
     
  3. Raven

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    I'll take a tiny chance for a superstar over adding another good player. We have a roster full of good players and what has it gotten us?

    Keep the pick!
     
  4. johnnyonthespot

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    I'm so tired of posts like this praising Morey. Morey built this team and look where we are now. It's quickly becoming apparent that Morey's approach to selecting players SUCKS! The team he has assembled is on the verge of terrible. And don't even say its because Yao and Brooks are out. 1. Yao may never be back, and hasn't been a contributing member of our team for some time now. 2. We started the season 0-5 with Brooks. What makes people think he will turn us around when he comes back?

    All that said...Go Rockets!
     
  5. emjohn

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    Not warm to this idea. Not with Randolph having such issues getting and staying on the court for two poor teams in a row. Not with him angling for a major payday based on "potential".

    I simply don't see how he fixes the problems with our team today, how he'd be a good longterm fixture. If our team's window is slamming shut, I'd much rather keep the pick for the rebuild process.
     
  6. Rockets4279

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    The problem i have with Morey is he's a stats guru who don't look beyond his statistical grid to find things that don't show up on his computer. He esembled a team that looks good on paper and in statistics, but on the floor it equals a losing formula.
     
  7. RV6

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    This is not the view to have if you want to upgrade your team. Fans want a superstar, a scorer, a defender, a two way player, and so on, but they don't want anyone who's not an angel or a presidential candidate. Most players who are ultra competitive have that smugness about them. Sure, some don't, but that's rare. AR's "problem" is being confident in his abilities, not being a thug or bully. The fact that so many of our players are soft makes other players look much more meaner when they stare them down or talk trash. Even clyde drexler would come off as a thug if he dunked on an 8yr old.

    That same player who was yelling at Yao will be the same player who will stand up for Yao, if he's wearing rockets' red.
     
  8. Rockets4279

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    Morey esembled a team full of softies and players who contributed on losing teams. So their record is exactly what they are.
     
  9. Shroopy2

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    The underrated aspect of Shane Battier is even though he isnt athletic, he does have the LENGTH at his position. Replace length with length, not the overreaching for Courtney Lee to do it.

    Battier is averaging a healthy 1.5 blocks a game. It'd be nice to have a player that can match THAT at the 3. Though 3 wouldnt be his full time position, Randolph is as decent a young project out there to try that with.
     
  10. pbthunder

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    This is all about accumulating trading chips.

    We already have too many of our assets tied up in the bigs. I would say we have two decent bigs that aren't used, in PPatt and Jeffries. To be sure, we might be using them at one time or another, but only by sitting somebody else that deserves to play. You can argue about whom isn't being used, but we have more decent bigs than we can play.

    DM will do this if he gets back more than he pays. I'm not saying that Randolph is whom he will look to trade, but he will have extra bigs that he can swap for something else. Actually, DM will move anybody, if he gets enough back. We might prefer to trade Hayes, PPatt, and Jeffries, but if somebody offers us enough for Hill or Randolph, off they go. Hey, if we can trade Randolph and Martin for Iggy, and Hill and AB for Chris Paul (just examples, guys), and we're left with Yao/Miller/Scola/PPatt/Hayes/Jeffries, we could learn to live with that.
     
  11. coachbadlee

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    First, Morey's team building project ws and has not been completed. We all knew that at the beginning of the season that he was till looking to add one or two more pieces. Although, you are right about Yao, AB coming off the bench would definitely help this team. With no injuries, Rockets 14-8 instead of 8-14.
     
  12. Rockets4279

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    Which is why i think they'll be better then a 10th lottery pick more like 14th or 15th when it's all said and done. You aint gonna find a superstar with that so bring in AR and groom him and Hill.
     
  13. pge71188

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    In Morey I still trust.
     
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    You have to remember, Randolph at 21-22 is still younger than some of the 2011-2012 draftees. :eek:
     
  15. daywalker02

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    get anthony not zachary
     
  16. ThaShark316_28

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    The complete opposite of this post was made in the 2008 off-season. Easy to pile on when the team is struggling.
     
  17. RV6

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    do you realize how tiny that chance keeps getting? We started the season having a great shot at a higher lottery pick, mainly because everyone expected NY to suck for a while and we sort of had both of their picks. We'd probably end up with a 8-10 in 2011 and then a 10-13 in 2012, plus our late first rounder in 2012, probably in the early 20s. Now, not only is NY not sucking badly, but are probably going to end up out of the lottery next year and almost surely next year with CA. Sure, we're not very good now, but it's not likely to continue when yaoAB come back and we'll almost surely get stuck not being a sure lottery team or contender, in other words, another 14-16 pick at best.

    So we went from 3 picks that were likely :

    mid lottery 2011
    mid lottery 2012
    early 20s/late teens 2012

    to:

    very late lottery 2011
    early 20s/late teens 2012
    early 20s/late teens 2012

    Our best pick now may come in a weak draft to make matters worse. I'd have to say the chance of landing a superstar, or even a star with any of those picks is easily under 1%.

    The chances of flipping some of these "good" players for a star are better than getting that star through the next two drafts.
     
  18. pbthunder

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    The claim that this team is a failure is just faulty. They just haven't figured out the rotations, including having AB and Yao (or maybe trading Yao). A little time will show this. No need for all this hand-wringing.
     
  19. ThaShark316_28

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    I sit here and hope that this fan base gets smarter...and they just don't do it, man. I know I shouldn't be at all surprised, but my GOD.
     
  20. saleem

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    My dear sir,Mr.Randolph is no star. He has been unable to do justice to his talent. He relies on his athleticism,and doesn't work hard. I would rather go for a hard working role player than him. GSW gave up on him,and the Knicks seem to be doing the same. We should package our pick(s) plus our players/expiring contracts to upgrade the team.
     

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