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Rockets trade TyTy Washington and Usman Garuba + stuff to Atlanta for Alpha Kaba

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Htown Legend, Jul 1, 2023.

  1. MrButtocks

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    NBA 2022 Draft Prospects | TyTy Washington Jr. | NBA.com

    Tyty has decent size for a PG by almost any measure, but I guess anyone who's not "big" is considered small nowadays.
     
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    Seattle and Vegas for sure they just have to work out the alignment. Scrap divisions and move MIN, MEM, or NOP to East. Combined with a 77 game schedule (3 conf, 2 intra, ala covid sched) and expand quarter final Cup games would be nice and neat.
     
  4. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    I'm as lucky as everyone else, which is great! ;)
     
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    Im going to interject just to say this is completely and utterly delusional.

    Luck (good and bad) is everything. Muggy Bogues proves this as the exception to the rule of luck; otherwise, the history of the NBA would have multiple short guys of varying levels of athleticism who used their one lucky trait to succeed.

    Elon Musk was lucky to be born into a family where his long-term ability to eat and have shelter wasn’t dependent on working for a paycheck. Very, very few people have this kind of luck. He could instead use his money to gamble on long shots and in his case, he’s one of a few lucky guys for whom the long shot came true.

    If he had been born into a middle class (or poorer) family, his fortune doesn’t happen - period.

    If he had developed a long term illness and had to dedicate his life and his family money to caring for his health, his fortune doesn’t happen - period.

    If he was trying to build his fortune in a country that lacked the stability and economy to allow for innovative businesses to emerge, that fortune doesn’t occur - period.

    Does that discount the fact that he made good, maybe even brilliant, decisions with the circumstances he inherited? Not at all - but luck was primary. It is for all of us.

    The way you imply that those who have faced failure are always somehow responsible for the failure because they didn’t do “everything” is vile and sociopathic. This is the same logic that religious hypocrites use to universally blame the poor for their misfortune.
     
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    More Alpha Kaba talk and less Elon Musk talk! I came here for Alpha Kaba news!!
     
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    Phi Alpha Kabba clutch city chapter
     
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    Alpha Kaba is old news.

    Omega Kaba is the new hotness. Long may he reign.
     
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    Wow. Thanks for the masterclass in twisting words or poor reading comprehension- can’t tell which. Context matters and the point is the league is trending away from smaller PGs who still need skips development regardless of mindset. At no point was anyone talking about any other position. If you are going to be smaller - you better come in with a deeper set of skills - it’s why Scoot was 2(who frankly plays like a vet already) and the next PGs taken were Amen and Black.

    Advanced skill set and tall>advanced skill set and small>needs skills development and tall>needs skill set and small

    ….the league is trending towards the tallest most highly skilled players more than anything else. It’s why Vic went first, Miller 2nd, Scoot 3rd…and the skills break started at 4 with Houston taking the tallest positional player who has glaring holes still in his game. It’s not enough to be simply tall. All the rest of that mindset stuff is only used when all other things are equal.
     
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    I don't agree with you at all, I think it's more vile to claim that people need luck to make it. Only a tiny slice of humanity will have exceptional luck, and so the rest are expected to sit back and "pray" for luck.

    I'm concerned about this topic derailing the thread so feel free to start a D&D thread but personally I've shared everything I wanted to share.
     
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    Tyty may not have been given the opportunity to be a consistent NBA player. He simply wasn't drafted into the right situation. On another team or in another time, he may have worked himself into a starting role.

    The NBA is littered with stories of "bigs" that never lived up and "smalls" that overachieved. It's too simplistic to say big + ability > small + ability. There are simply too many examples that counter that narrative.

    As an aside on the other theme, there is (almost) no such thing as "luck". There are only opportunities and there is ability to see and cease opportunities. Musk was given an opportunity in life and he ceased on it. Good for him. But make no mistake, Step 1 is he was given that opportunity and that is a situation most of us never got.

    It's not a binary question. Two things can be true at the same time.

    Was Musk "lucky"? Definitely.
    Did Musk make the most of the opportunity that was given to him? Absolutely.

    We'll see if Tyty lands in a better situation. We'll also see if he can cease on it. Maybe he gets hurt at in inopportune time and his window of opportunity closes. Maybe its already closed.
     
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    He was on one of the very worst teams in the league that had horrible lead guard play - that's as good a situation a rookie PG is going to get.

    He didn't play much, obviously (not nearly as much as Garuba, by comparison) - so it's hard to pass judgment on him.

    But, from what little we saw, it was hard to get excited about him, he didn't seem to have any special element (speed, passing, shooting whatever) that would make him more than a replacement level player.

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    All this talk about height and luck and billionaires and Elon Musk fails to take into consideration something very important:

    Usman Garuba is at BEST an end-of-the-roster player on a good NBA team, and has now been dumped by three teams in the last seven weeks..
     
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    This thread has turned into garbage. Need more updates on TyTy to turn things around.
     
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    The talk about Elon musk is getting bumped because Arithmetic Weaving Device spent the last year telling us that a certain messy bottom man was an elite defender on Draymond Green all time great level and would start for most NBA teams because... Real Madrid UEFA something something.

    Meanwhile back in reality - the same dude was routinely getting played off the floor on both ends by nearly every single NBA big man he went up against.
     
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    He fell into our laps for one reason:

    Alpha Kaba Beach Party!
     
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    I was looking at 2nd rounders that benefitted the Rockets. You can't give him credit for drafting a good player of he released him or gave him away from nothing. The comment I was responding to specifically said won't give stone credit until he finds gems in 2md round not 1st or late first.
     
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    Exactly, how many spots do the Rockets have open to fill?

    1. PG - VanVleet
    2. PG - Thompson
    3. PG - Holiday
    4. SG - Green
    5. SG - Porter Jr.
    6. SF - Brooks
    7. SF - Whitmore
    8. PF - Smith Jr.
    9. PF - Eason
    10. PF - Tate
    11. PF - Green
    12. C - Sengun
    13. C - Landale
    14. ?
    15. ?
    2-way. PG - Hudgins?
    2-way. PF - Days?

    Camp Invite - Hinton
    Camp Invite - Williams
    Camp Invite - Mayer
    Camp Invite - Obiesie
     
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    Garuba is playing great for Spain in the World Cup. Looking for potential match up with USA in the Final.
     
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