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Rockets trade Rafer for Kyle Lowry and Brian Cook

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ahess99, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. love

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    bye bye skip!
    this trade will be good for skip's career.
    hopefully brooks can develop...

    we lost veteran leadership at the pg.. which will cost us big time..
    rafer was always under-appreciated here..
     
  2. the_donace

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    Good comment, from what I have seen of Lowry which is probably more than most, Lowry is not a pass first point guard he IS an attacker and finishes well but I also would not call him a bad passer he is good at passing out of penetration and yes he is somewhat like Rondo in the sense he is Lockdown defender but one thing he has over rondo is he is a really good free throw shooter and we cant judge his 3 point shooting because the looks he will get are going to be MUCH different around Yao so that part of his game is something that will be new to all of us.
     
  3. huzzar

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    seems that The Rockets always likes to make trades with Orlando
     
  4. Tfor3

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    Not sure what to think.

    don't know enough about the other players.
     
  5. jVgOwnsYou

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    Lowry>Rafer.Its that simple. There are several different ways you can look at the trade, but simply put Kyle Lowry is an upgrade over Rafer Alston. Alston got the minutes because he earned it, but this was a move that will make the franchise better. Had to be done.

    Lowry is going to turn some heads. He's tough as nails and he is quick and explosive. Alston was a good passer but a terribly inefficient scorer. With Mcgrady gone, we need more scoring from our back court. Lowry can put the ball in the bucket and get to the free throw line. His assist numbers per minute are better than Rafer and hes efficient from inside the 3 point line. I heard a stat today that he shoots around 50 percent from inside the arc. Rafer shot like 39 percent inside the arc. Rafer has no midrange game and his three point shot is average at best.

    And most importantly, Lowry is a better defender/rebounder. Thats something that people are failing to mention.
     
  6. JayGoogle

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    I've been saying it all this time, Lowry does a lot more things than Rafer.

    I really expect him to be a mini-shane...not as good as Shane at being Shane.
    But I feel his defensive intensity, his drive to the basket, I feel he will be a mini-shane for us and you can never have too many Shane's :D

    Also, we won't really miss Alston's shooting...maybe we will miss his passing but nearly every PG in the NBA is a pretty good passer...I expect Lowry to be as good a passer and at least he won't throw up some ugly floater that allows the other team to swing a good 4-5 points on us.
     
  7. TesseracT

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    What is wrong with you people saying this season is over?

    Why? We lost Rafer and McGrady? Those are two people everyone wanted gone in the first place. Everyone complains about how McGrady is a ball stopper and ruins our offensive flow. So much hate for Rafer too.

    How is our season over?
     
  8. Tfor3

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    so how does rafer and lowry's 3 ball %tage compare?

    Who starts--brooks? How much time will barry get as a result of trade?
     
  9. Tfor3

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    I agree with you on mac:
    I like a healthy tmac, but it seems like the only way a healthy tmac works is if there is too much 1 on 1 iso plays for mac and like u said very little ball movement and very little moving without the ball from mac. Seems like mac is destined to go somewhere and be "the man" and save a team. He does not know how how to be a part of the team, but he does want to be THE team.

    Rafer is too streaky
     
  10. sushimaster

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    I like the way Lowry penetrates to the hole.

    - Sushimaster
     
  11. Chamillionaire

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    i'm not really sure but i have a good feeling about this trade, lowry is younger and a different type of a pg, rafer had a huge part on the team, i think we don't really need rafer to do that. we need a point guard who's willing to pass and defer to the other players .

    lowry is a good defender, younger, and as morey put it, a better player. we don't need him to shoot 5 3's a game, we need him to get other players involved and also do a good job on the other end of the court. a lot of teams had wanted lowry over the past year or 2 and we got him for rafer.

    we also got brian cook, he's a good shooter and has good size, we might or might not use him but he's has skills we didn't have before, a big man who can step out and hit shots, who prefers to play out on the perimeter, he can play with yao or with luis or carl.

    i don't think we'll become better immediately, but maybe in a season or 2, we'll be a better team because of this trade.

    just my 2 cents.
     
  12. jVgOwnsYou

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    Lowry has a poor percentage from beyond the arc, but that wont be his role on the team. He's a capable penetrator and scorer and he plays up tempo team basketball which is what we need to surround yao with. Toughness and Athleticism. Something that Morey has been adding since he has been here.

    Barry will get more minutes also because he mixes better with back court players who can consistantly get to the rim. Now instead of 20 minutes of brooks, you will get the full 48 mins with a guard that can penetrate and score.
     
  13. duluth111222

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    For anybody who thinks Lowry > Rafer, ask yourself this: why didn't Orlando trade for Lowry? Why 3-way trade and ask for Rafer instead?

    Lowry ISN'T an upgrade over Rafer. Plain and simple.
     
  14. jVgOwnsYou

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    Because the magic need veteran decision makers in their back court more than they need scoring.
     
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    TNT also employs Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley, I question their ability to get something right.
     
  16. Tfor3

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    ok, cool.

    I would hope that if need be he could make a decent clip from beyond the arc on busted plays or on good defensive teams that force you to hit from the 3. I guess if he can find the open man, that will work. Plus, he could at 10-15% on his 3pt Percentage with some dedication.
     
  17. burnnotice

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    They didn't trade Chuck Hayes, WTF...

    They didn't trade Chuck Hayes, WTF...

    And picked up Brian Cook. I guess Adelman wanted to make sure he has some practice players. I am sure he is salivating at the thought of having his Power Forward sitting out behind the 3 point line. Chuck will only get off the bench as a situational player. Too bad Rick Adelman's situations never call for him to have his team play defense.

    And you give up Alston for this? Damn, I was hoping they were gonna trade Chuck to a contender.

    The Rockets are headed for the lottery with this trade.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Wanna bet?

    DD
     
  19. rhino17

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    Check your facts before making idiotic posts

    Adelman's teams have consistently been in the top 10 defensively, often times being in the top 5
     
  20. Blake

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    yeah, getting rid of a mediocre at best point guard is going to ruin our season :rolleyes:

    these overreaction threads are getting ridiculous
     

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