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Rockets to acquire Kevin Martin (UPDATE: 3-Way Deal Reached)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    We can't afford to pay him. He won't agree to come. he has a No trade clause.
     
  2. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

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    you're doing it wrong

    you can never compute average of averages IF you have base data

    total 3 pts made in 3 years
    divided by
    total 3 pt attempts in 3 years
    equals
    average 3pt fg% in 3 years
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    Umm...his last 3 years are his only 3 years as a primary scorer. You're arguing over a few % points and calling him a poor shooter. ANYONE that has watched his game knows that is far from the truth.
     
  4. Al Capone

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    Will Martin play against the Pacers Saturday?
     
  5. IndoRockets

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    Is the deadline in 1.5 hours in US?

    Man who is this Jefferies..I never seen him play. Knicks really want to move him, but nobody wants him. It must suck being him now. And which team gave him the 6.9mil contract? That is quite a hefty wage.

    As sad I am in losing Landry, I am thrilled to see Kevin Martin in the Rockets.
     
  6. rockets934life

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    This is turning into a trade for the ages...

     
  7. saitou

    saitou J Only Fan

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    It is essential, that's the whole point of this McGrady exercise for them. McGrady the player is just a bonus, but doesn't matter as much as dumping JJ.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    i would think so. the deadline is today and all players involved can play after today unless they're injured.

    hopefully we also net another impact player so we can make the playoffs.
     
  9. StonesRunIt

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    im talking FG shooting not just 3pt, and enlighten me as to why thats wrong? not being a smart ass, but i dont get it.
     
  10. HeyDude

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    I dont know what's going on but this is downright scary. If any of these scenarios happen I'll literally want to kill myself:

    1: Sac buys out TMAC who then joins Knicks (or if he's smart a contender)

    2: Sac trades with Kincks for Hill, Lee, or picks

    3: We dont do any further trades, thus meaning we lost TMAC + Landry for only Martin

    Right now, the only way to rationalize trading Landry is if we're to get Hill and Jeffries. If not, I just can't comprehend what Morey was thinking? :confused:
     
  11. StonesRunIt

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    Kevin Martin
    Position: SG
    Hgt: 6'7"
    Wgt: 185
    Age: 26
    Number: 23
    Nickname: The Flying Platypus
    College: Western Carolina
    Yrs with Team: 5
    Yrs in League: 5
    Previous Teams: N/A
    How Acquired: 2004 Draft Rnd 1 (#26)
    Contract: 2009-10: $10.2mil; 2010-11: $11.1mil; 2011-12: $12.0mil; 2012-13: $12.9mil
    Strengths: speed & quickness, great range, ability to draw fouls
    Weaknesses: defensive effort, does not create for teammates, durability concerns

    Offense (Scoring & Passing)
    One of the league's best scorers, and scores in virtually every way, off the drive, on the break, from three, and from the line. Super efficiency of his early career has faded as defenses have keyed on him, and last season posted a career low .420 shooting percentage. Still averaged nearly 25ppg however with a potent combination of exceptional quickness and speed, complimented by deadeye outside shooting, esepcially with his feet set. Does not have great one on one or ballhandling skills, but is expert at coming off screens, and finding angles and seams if his opponent is off balance. Is also one of the tougher players to guard off the ball in the league, moving constantly and taking advantage of inattentive defense. Does have a tendency to tire and slow down in this respect late in games. Claims to have modeled his game after Rip Hamilton and Reggie Miller, and in one respect certainly has: he flops. A lot. Constantly looking for contact, and if he can't find it, will create it. Was second in the league in FTs drawn last season (to Dwight Howard) after leading the league the year before. Continues to convert them at a very high rate (87%), which helped buoy his efficiency stats even as his FG shooting percentage fell for the 4th straight year. Sometimes gets too interested in drawing the foul, and can miss easy shots while searching for contact. Still has a funky windup on his shot that slows it down, but has smoothed it out over the years, and the most important thing is that it goes in. Deadly shooter from three when left open, posting a career high .415 from deep last season, but not as effective if challenged. Continues to get opponents to bite on his pump fake, as the combination of fear of his outside shot along with his quickness causes many a defender to bite and regret it. Still very skinny, but has bulked up from his rookie year, and is better able to finish through contact. Has a particularly potent one handed floater on the drive. Loves to get out on the break and use his speed. In fact at least some of his defensive woes (see below) are because of this trait. Has solid passing skills, but rarely creates for teammates. Lack of ballhandling and scorer's mentality mean normally looking for the shot, not the pass. Has made more of an effort to function as a passer as talent has bled from the team around him, but has struggled with the role and has seen his turnovers rise every season partly as a result.


    Defense & Rebounding
    Nowhere near the defender he should be, and last season saw a near complete collapse on this side of the ball. Early in his career actually showed a combination of feistiness when being posted despite his extremely skinny build combined with the quickness to guard some PGs. Rarely see that intensity anymore though, and one assumes that its because of a focus on scoring. Is mistake prone on defense, often turning his head or losing his man. Lack of strength is a problem inside. Gets some steals up top by using his speed to jump on lazy crosscourt passes, but rarely picks his own man, and gets relatively few steals for someone with his quickness. Can be effective coming back to help on the glass with his athleticism, but just as often prefers to leak out looking for the easy score. This applies defensively as well, where he will often head upcourt before the ball is secured. With Ron Artest gone last season, and John Salmons traded midseason, defense was really exposed as the year ran on, and troublingly appeared to almost quit on that side of the ball at times. A lingering ankle injury was sometimes pointed to as a culprit, but it seemed to have much less effect on his play on the other side of the ball.


    Intangibles
    Quiet demeanor on and off court has contributed to popularity and reputation as a "nice guy", but perhaps too nice to function as an effective leader. Despite gaudy offensive stats, struggled in many intangible areas last year: unable to establish himself as the team leader despite being its best player, went through a horrid two month long stretch where he repeatedly made critical errors in clutch situations, and sat out a long stretch of the season with what intially seemed to be a relatively minor injury, again raising concerns about his durability (he has missed a combined 52 games the past two seasons) and whether his slight frame can withstand a full season of punishment as a primary option. On a more positive note, closed the season in style, finally scoring 50pts in a game against the Warriors before shutting it down and taking the rest of the season off. Will be interesting to see how well he meshes with rookie PG Tyreke Evans, an offensive minded ball dominant player.


    Stats 08-09: 38.2min 24.6pts (.420 FG% .415 3pt% .867 FT%) 3.6reb 2.7ast 1.2stl 0.2blk 2.9TO
    Stats Career: 30.3min 16.9pts (.454 FG% .389 3pt% .852 FT%) 3.6reb 1.8ast 0.9stl 0.1blk 1.7TO



    Looks like return of the Mac
     
  12. LifeisButaDream

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    Thats way tmac said what he did about LA and Cav so ny will be force to trade. :p
     
  13. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Now that is a Blockbuster.

    I love the NBA just for days like this...except for Landry.
     
  14. Asian Sensation

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    They need to dump Jeffries in order to possibly sign 2 max players. Mcgrady won't be eligble for the playoffs regardless if he goes where we think he's going (NY or Sac).
     
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-mcgradytalks021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    There was a great deal of acrimony between the Rockets’ front office and McGrady camp prior to the late-night trade to Sacramento on Wednesday.

    The Kings were willing to do a deal with the Knicks as trade partners to move McGrady Wednesday night, but league sources have suggested they’ve been less enthusiastic about it on Thursday morning. Of course, it could be posturing. Still, the Kings were able to get tremendous salary-cap relief and space with the deal and are trying to figure out their motivation for wanting to take anything back from New York.
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    Hope so, if anything I bet Martin will arrive in Houston today if he isn't already here with the team. Plus he is familiar with Adelman, I think he gets thrown into the game because otherwise we are destined to lose that game with no Landry/Martin/ or Lowry.
     
  17. Almu

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    Um...just looking at the roster...damn, we little!

    (Thats what she said!)

    We are going to get POUNDED on the boards. Totally annihilated.

    Second thoughts now....
     
  18. adw

    adw SuperClutchMan

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    haha classic
     
  19. JayGoogle

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    Thank you.

    Also, I get it. Dude shot .420 last season. You realize that is possible when you are the primary scorer for a bad team. Kobe shot .433 04-05...did he decline?
     
  20. djohn2o12

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    Lol, the Knicks just screwed themselves.....Antwan Jamison goes to cleveland, which makes LeBron likely to stay, Tyrus Thomas goes to Charlotte, which means no Al Harrington deal there, they didn't give Houston those picks, which leads to McGrady to Sac town, now Sac town playing extra hardball
     

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