I don't understand this obsession with Anderson, I really don't. I mean yeah, he can hit the 3... against scrubs, so what? Has anybody actually checked out his shooting %? Invariably somebody here is gonna come up with his intangibles, yeah I know, I already took that into consideration. That was more than offset by his deadweight contract signed back when he was actually decent. Yet some here suggest we trade Mo for him instead of Marshall. What's the point? At least Marshall I can stomach. If he re - signs, great. But even if he doesn't, we got rid of Mo's deadweight contract. C'mon, say it with me, "we got rid of Mo's deadweight contract." I would only trade for Anderson if we are certain we won't get Marshall with Mo in some sort of arrangement.
Why is it that many are linking MoT's name in a possible Marshall trade? Toronto is not going to, or will ever, take Taylor. They have constantly said that they either want Rose's contract gone, young talent, and/or picks to even move him. Teams have offered them players (not young talent) with multiple years left on their contracts, and Toronto has continued to turn them down. Especially after buying out Mourning's contract, they are not going to take back another big contract. Add all this to the fact they have Bosh, their future and franchise player, playing the 4 and it's not going to happen. The only way they give us Donyell is with the TE and pick(s).
Maybe I'm missing your point but why should Toronto want Mo Taylor? Why should they take on his contract without compensation? Just to get rid of Marshall? Why? (Apart from the fact that Mo for Marshall straight up doesn't work salary-wise.) Exactly.
TE and #1 for Marshall, sure. IF we get Donyell the lowest our pick would be is 23, maybe even as high as 26 (no chance to catch SA, Suns and Mia). And by having him on our team we can resign him w/o cutting into our MLE. TE and #2 (ours our one acquired from Portland, see below) for Eric Will works too. On its own I don't like the MoT for DA trade, but if we brought in Marshall or EW--both long relatively athletic forwards (athletic and multidimensional compared to Spoon or Padget or Bowen), sure. I think I want Portlands #2 pick though (or #2 pick swap), as I think DA has a worse contract relative to what he brings on the open market as an aging overpriced SG than MoT does as an overpriced but closer to his prime PF.
They don't. I don't ever hope of getting rid of Mo's contract before it expires. I was just responding to the fact that some posters seem to want to trade Mo for Anderson, instead of Marshall, should that opportunity arise.
How's Marshall's man-to-man defense? Both low-post defense and perimeter defense against new age PFs? I like Marshall, but I'm concerned that we will still need another traditional big-man type if he joins the Rockets. The last thing we need is to add another PF who doesn't compensate for our weaknesses.
Nobody in the league will make this team better? Oh really! How 'bout any of these guys? Duncan, KG, Kidd, Nash, Nowitzki, B. Wallace, V. Carter, P. Pierce, AI, Shaq, LJ, R. Wallace, C. Bosh, D. Wade, Amare, R. Lewis, RIP, Marion, J. O'Neal, Allen, Redd, need I go on. Seriously, Marshall would be a good addition, but give me an f'n break - I just names 20+ players that would easily be better than DM and I could easily name another 30-40, so think before you go exaggggerating DM's capabilities. You sound like his pimp.
no one has wanted to trade mo's contract for marshall b/c it is not in the realm of possibility. we can either trade mo for DA's perfectly matching contract or get marshall by some other means. there is no choice b/t who we're trading mo for. it's DA or nobody. now if there is a choice b/t either making the mo for DA trade or making the marshall for TE/picks trade, that might be another thing. but since DA's contract is the same as mo's it doesn't help get rid of a deadweight contract, and since the salaries are equal, it would have no bearing on getting marshall or not. in fact, the two trades would likely complement each other if anything b/c we wouldn't want another pf contract if we still have mo's pf contract instead of DA's sg contract.
I agree!! I'd keep our 1st round pick. Projections are that Daniel Ewing will fall to the late 1st round. I'd rather have him sitting at #12 or the IR than Ward. He'd have a halfway decent chance of developing into a good PG.
Did I misspell His last name? I was referring to the Duke point guard that teamed with T. J. Ford at Willowridge.
Andrei Kirilenko Gordan Giricek Manu Ginobili Marko Jaric Michael Redd Gerald Wallace Samuel Dalembert Jamaal Tinsley Tony Parker Trenton Hassell Gilbert Arenas Mehmet Okur Earl Watson Bobby Simmons Tayshaun Prince Carlos Boozer Flip Murray Darius Songaila Josh Howard Luke Walton Keith Bogans Kyle Korver Delonte West Tony Allen Beno Udrih Anderson Varejao Chris Duhon Players chosen with the 23rd pick or lower the past five drafts. The Rockets are projected to pick 23rd this year. Four All-Stars. Four major contributors to NBA Championship teams. That 1st round pick is worth more than a guy who's turning 32 in may and could very well pull a Beltran on us. Don't let the media and a nine-game win streak fool you -- we're not a SF/PF tweener away from winning the title.
DA fills a greater need for us IMO. Depth at the guard position is shallow, Strick can't play 30+ minutes if Sura is injured and I think T-Mac is playing way too many minutes given his fragile frame. MoT is not going to get any playing time with SP ahead of him now and paying MoT $48m to ride the bench or spend his time on the phantom IL isn't productive for the team or MoT. The DA/MoT deal is a natural and I have a gut feeling it happens next week.
Personally, I'd rather have Jalen Rose than Derek Anderson. DA has been constantly injured throughout his career, and has a bad attitude. They both have two years remaining. Doing the Toronto deal, we could probably get Donyell Marshall as well.
How will these guys fit (or not fit) into our rotation? Will any of them be pleased or more importantly, effective, with the minutes they'll get? Whose minutes will they be taking? Rose: Needs significant time (25-35 mpg) in order not to pout, be an ass, and play at a high level. Will be taking minutes from McGrady at the 3, and Wes/Barry at the 2 (when TMac slides down). Maybe the biggest question is..... Will he be a role player who plays too big for his britches? (Read: Jim Jackson) Marshall: Will immediately take all of Padgett's minutes, some of Howard's depending on his play. Has been a role player his whole career, so he's used to inconsistent minutes. Imo, he'd just be happy to be here, won't make waves. (Read: Jon Barry). Those 3's, blocks, and boards might be nice. Anderson: Again, Barry and Wesley's minutes at the 2. Although he clearly won't "require" as many minutes as a Jalen Rose. Again, I think he'd be happy to A) Be out of a bad situation and B) Be with a winning team with good chemistry. (Read: Wesley). If that's the case, his athleticism on the wing would help - another penetrator and finisher on O, some length and quickness on D.
In that case, I'd take them in the following order: 1. Anderson . .Marshall . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . What's His Face
That projection is after a great run-up to ASG and before the proclaimed toughest remaining schedule in the NBA. It is also without conswidering Kobe is back and maybe, so too is, Minny.
