I will take the two-part deal for Rose and Marshall in a heartbeat. part 1 - Rose for Mo T + Spoon + our pick Part 2 - Marshall for TE Yao/Deke Marshall/Howard Tmac/Barry Rose/Wesley Sura/Strickland Firepower. Running, passing, scoring. Point guard is only weak link. We throw the full MCE at Daniels in the offseason. Done. Bring on the Spurs. We have too many weapons.
Deuce, that team would be awesome. I'd do it. definitely. unless there are some things we don't know about marshall and daniels and anderson. Daniels, Anderson..are good players...different styles from Barry..but yeah they are similar players. I would definitely love to have both of them along with Wesley and Barry and Sura. Marshall and Howard could do for a while. Yao and Dikembe!
Donyell Marshall: salary 5.03 mil Height: 6-9 Weight: 230 lbs. Pos: F Age: 31 Born: May 18, 1973, Reading, PA Drafted: 1994, 1st round, 4th pick by Timberwolves College: Connecticut Good 3 Pt %, scores 10-12 a game PPG10.6, RPG6.1, BPG 0.6 Eric Williams; (in first year of 3 yr/12 mil contract) Height: 6-8 Weight: 220 lbs. Pos: GF Age: 32 Born: July 17, 1972, Newark, NJ Drafted: 1995, 1st round, 14th pick by Celtics College: Providence PPG 8.2, RPG 3.4, APG1.8 Both of thes guys want out and either of these guys help us. I would be tempted to give up a lotto protected 1st for Donyell, but I would rather expand the deal if they want a number 1 pick (which is what they have been collecting in other deals - like for Carter). So, TE for Donyell, but they also have to do Williams for a first and Ward plus combo of Bowen/gaines/strickland/barrett (whatever adds up to enough for salary match).
That sounds good. Yao/Dikembe Howard/Marshall/Spoon Tmac/Williams/Padgett Wesley/Anderson/Barry Sura/Daniels I really like our team right now. I'd gladly give up Mo and Ward and Gaines
the two-part deal for Rose and Marshall in a heartbeat. part 1 - Rose for Mo T + Spoon + our pick Part 2 - Marshall for TE This deal is even bette than going for Williams. MoT and Spoon are our WORST contracts (then Ward?) Rose might be useful at least, and Donyell is an improvement over both of them combined.
No, the way the Rox are rolling I would not change anything. Marshall would expect to be part of the rotation, and there's no way I want him taking Padgett's minutes. Keep the roster as is, and infuse some youth via the draft or free agency during the off-season.
he would be the PERFECT FIT for this team...nobody in the league will make this team better than this guy...he knows his role...and does what he is asked of within his role... however deram on there's nothing the rocks have to offer
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO YOU TRADE YOUR 1ST ROUND PICK FOR A GUY THAT COULD WALK AT SEASON'S END!!! What assurance can you give me he will resign for a reasonable price? None! Surrounding our core with young players is paramount for a team built the way we are. This is a deep draft, you keep the pick and actually USE it for once. I don't understand the infatuation with Marshall anyways. He's probably not even better than Howard. If he was a Rocket he would put up similar numbers to Howard, only difference is Marshall can hit the 3. Donyell Marshall 2004-05 Statistics PPG 10.6 RPG 6.1 APG 1.1 SPG .86 BPG .64 FG% .426 FT% .800 3P% .405 MPG 24.3 Juwan Howard 2004-05 Statistics PPG 9.3 RPG 5.5 APG 1.4 SPG .55 BPG .10 FG% .448 FT% .840 3P% .000 MPG 25.4 MPG 24.3 Need I say more? ....and if you still think THAT is worth our 1st round pick, I am thankful you aren't running this team.
i have watched more raptor games than most people...since i live in T.O.....and Marshall is not Juwan Howard... he can get Blocks(big plus)/Rebounds(about the same)/3 Point shooter ..... plus Marshall is on a sh*t team.... having Yao will make a difference...being the weak side help will be huge.....meaning his blocks would get even better....plus he's a better Defender than Howard which can't be measured by stats. Case closed.
For those who don't know Marshall - he shoots like Padget but also rebounds and gets blocks I like the way Howard has been playing lately as well.. but I don't see him (per se) bringing anything special - by special, I mean, some intangebles that cannot be replaced (see Sura) so, unless he is boyz with Sura, Barry, Yao or Tmac - getting Marshall over a Howard or Mo is a huge upgrade ...plus the contract is signifcantly better
I agree with you that Howard is nothing special but do the Rockets really want to change the team chemestry up when they are on a nine game winning streak. i wouldnt mind getting Marshall for Mo but I dont want to get rid of Howard just yet.
I get league pass every year, I've seen this guy play enough to draw my own conclusions. Not saying he's a similar player to Howard, but in terms of production he would. If we can get him cheap, I am all for it. However, despite his rather lack luster play this year Toronto insists on asking the house for him----hence the reason team after team keeps dropping out of the "race" for him. Bottom line is he's NOT worth our 1st round pick. Perhaps as the deadline approaches, Toronto will panic and lower their demands----then we can talk. Until then, no thanks.
Oh never mind I wouldn't give first round draft pick cuz Marshall can just leave... Forget that. I'd rather try to get Derek Anderson..draft a good young guard who will fit in our system..and then sign someone like Donyell or SAR. Yeah and I'd like to get ERic WIlliams too if we can get him for like a 2nd rounder.
A : The pick is very unlikely to pan out. It will be a late pick. You are gambling against the odds. B : Van Gundy isn't going to give that late pick any playing time. So, you are wasting the pick even if you keep it. C : Donyell Marshall is a much better rebounder than Howard. Reading that the are "the same" reminds me that some people here type without really doing any research. Donyell will have big, big number games followed by no shows. He is capable of great things, and shows especially in the clutch. He's also capable of sleepwalking through a futility proof. He is very smart, has a great nose for the ball, and understands where to send it. He can launch it when that's smart, and find the net. You would have a really hard time finding a better guy with your precious pick. That late, you're also more likely to end up with a guard, anyway. We have a few of those, already. I don't understand you do nothing people. You must lead very empty lives of quiet desperation, somewhere out in the far reaches of the distant suburban ring.
The one thing i would like to say on this note is that Marshell has proven that he can rack up double doubles when he is given 30 plus minutes a game. If you have seen him play he does open up the court a lot with his shooting ability from the outside unlike Juwan. Juwans stats are a bit skewed cause at the begining of the season he barely played consistant minutes along with Mo Taylor. So that is going to hurt his average. I have seen a lot of Donyell and he is a good player when given the minutes to play. Go back and check out the games he played over 30 minutes this season and check his stats....you will see he is a very productive player.
just to make my point a little bit more. I really like Howard. I like how he has stepped up recently and i am not saying i would like to mess up the chemistry at all but when you compare the games where Howard played more than 30 minutes with when Donyell Played more than 30 minutes you can really see a difference between the 2. Donyell (12 games over 30 minutes) 16.6 Points 8.5 Boards Howard (13 Games over 30 minutes) - all of them mostly recently 12.7 Points 8.1 Boards They are fairly close on the rebounding side but Marshell does put up more points and he is averaging 40% from the 3 point line which is really nice to have to stretch the other teams defense. Am i saying that we need him right now based on the chemistry we have? NO Would it be a nice backup or someone that can play in case Howard gets in fould trouble etc? Yeah It would be good to have on this team but in now way am i taking anything away from Howard cause he is really doing a good job when he has been given the minutes.
