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Rockets Stats by Shot Type

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. JeopardE

    JeopardE Member

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    I for one am not surprised at McGrady's percentage on fadeaways. He's one of the best in the league at that, even though he doesn't do it very often.
     
  2. HowsMyDriving

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    i would love to see assisted/unassisted/off the dribble

    i would also love to see %s vs. the shot clock and %s vs. game flow if only that data were available.

    how cool would it be to see shooting % in close games, shooting % when trailing in the 4th, to put some parameters around "clutch" shooting, etc.
     
  3. durvasa

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    You mean McGrady, not Battier.

    Chuck gets a lot of heat for the missed layups, because that's the only shot he attempts. He's so uninvolved and, frankly, unskilled as a scorer, that when he misses the easy shots it gets magnified. Also, it's true that the type of shots he takes are relatively simple, but I think when you consider that he's a 6'5 guy who can't jump it's obvious that scoring around the basket will become much tougher. That doesn't totally excuse it -- it's a pretty good reason not to have a 6'5 guy who can't jump as your PF, after all -- but that should at least explain it.

    As for Landry, he's more aggressive on his attempts around the basket because he has more athleticism. That means more dunks, but it also means he gets his shot blocked more frequently (14% for him, compared to 8% for Chuck). Chuck usually will try to go reverse or pass the ball out to evade shot blockers, with mixed results, but Landry goes right at them.
     
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    That information isn't difficult to figure out from the play by plays. 82games also tracks that stuff for last 5 minutes of close games.
     
  5. HowsMyDriving

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    link me and i'll do the crunching :)
     
  6. durvasa

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    So.........................


    Where's........................

    Novak????????
     
  8. durvasa

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    Oh yeah, I knew I was forgetting someone. I'm pretty sure almost all his shots have been jumpers. The percentages are known.
     
  9. jopatmc

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    I'd like to see a stat tracked for what percentage of layup/dunk attempts generate a foul on the opponent. I think that's very important in measuring how effective a player's is for his team. That's why I really like Points Per Shot. It's simple and clean. And it counts free throws.
     
  10. Spacemoth

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    Even if he's the highest on the team, that percentage will not cut it when most of your lay-ups are WIDE OPEN. Contrast that to Rafer's 55%, most of them coming off of dribble drives, and some of which even involving the dreaded teardrop move. Even though Rafer's % is below Chuck's, I'd say that I'm impressed that Rafer's is that high (compare his to T-Mac's) and Chuck's that low.
     
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    The direct contrast is Landry's finishes. Chuck is so bad that you don't want him to get fouled. He's better off taking the 55% layup. Those are the same shots Carl is hammering down at 90%. No doubt about it.
     
  12. durvasa

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    You know, I keep hearing that phrase over and over with Chuck. A lot of his shots are open, but I don't know if it's a vast majority of them like people keep suggesting. It would be interesting to chart the percentage of "wide open" shots he gets around the basket compared to others, and the rate at which he converts on them. Of course, he may not attempt 10 more shots all season ... so that would be tough to do at this point.

    As for the comparison with Rafer, I don't think most of those tear drop shots are categorized as layups. Mostly, if not all of them, they are categorized by jump shots in the play by plays, I believe. Also, I do believe it's easier to score on a layup off a dribble drive compared to stand still off two legs, all else being equal. You get more lift that way.
     
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    Again, it proves that Yao is a terrible jump shooter. and Yao shot too many jumpers, 49%.

    However, for Yao to be a true superstar, Yao has to improve his jump shooting.

    Scola's stats look good. he is a very clever player.
     
  14. LCII

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    Landry, even though its a small sample size, is the most accurate jumpshooter. He also has an awesome dunk percentage. And he already has roughly the same amount of dunks as T-mac and Bonzi even though he didn't see regular minutes until three weeks ago. Way to go landry
     
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    Scola's stats are unreal. Adelman has to design more plays for him. I think they're working on that.

    durvasa, awesome job!
     
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    A lot Scola shots seemed to be tip shots and he did very well in those shots.
    It implicated that he is alert, quick, under the rim often and would be a very good offensive rebounder.
     
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    Where did you get all this data, Durvasa?
    (+1 for another excellent job of finding random data)

    But some of the data are very subjective, in my opinion.
    One, I think most of Tmac's shot look like fadeways, just because he tends to kick out his leg when he shoots. But going by the date, he should shoot more "fadeways," based on the 70%. (Granted its out of 17).
    But its pretty surprising that even though he shoots that many jumpshots, he is still our best jumpshooter, based on the data. That number should be higher if he doesn't JACK UP *** SHOTS EVERY *** TIME!


    On a side note, since when did the Chuckwagon dunk? And twice? I know he can probably dunk, but still, I would imagine there would've been a thread in dedication of that achievement.
     
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    Are those T-Mac fadeaways also considered turnarounds??

    Most of the time players with their back to the basket(even from 16 feet) shoot the turnaround J with a bit of a fade.
     
  19. Hayesfan

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    I am fairly certain that he got them from the game play by plays. I could be wrong though.
     
  20. durvasa

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    Some turnarounds were also designated as fade aways, but I believe most were not.

    And, yes, I got it from the parsed play by plays at basketballvalue.com.
     

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