Preach on brother!!! The cat detractors keep talking about how cat won't fit into JVG system, but from what I have read JVG places value on hard work above all else. I mean look at Cato, he hustles so he is a JVG pet. Nobody works harder than Cat, he is all about hustle. Cat can shoot better than any of the guys that everyone wants to replace him with except maybe Pike and I think you could argue this as well. Cat is the man at the 2 spot and will fit into JVG's system like it was made for him.
francis 4 prez Of course we know that you are trying to make a noisance of yourself by trying to reach but for the sake of confirmation can you kindly list what you BELIEVE is the 20 2-guards in the NBA today. Please be as candid and reasonable as possible.
To suggest Mobley as a top 10 or 12 shooting guard is a good laugh. By what measure do you suggest such a thing? Go ahead and keep hyping Mobley because we all know what happened last year. Once again, I will bring up the point that Mobley choose to dribble dribble dribble and ignore a wide open Yao in the paint. Thank you ESPN SportsCenter for replaying Mobley's selfish plays over and over again just for good measure. The point was well taken. Also, to suggest he is such a great defender is also a farce. As I remember, Mobley began playing harder defense toward the late stages of the season and his defense was at best average during a majority of the season last year. We all know this so stop hyping his defensive abilities until he starts playing it with consistency. Of course J. Jackson and Mobley should have to compete for the starters position. However, I believe Jackson will prevail in the end simply because he is bigger, plays a more controlled and consistent game, and makes good decisions. It is possible that Mobley can redefine his game enough to get the starters role but I wouldn't hold my breath. But if he does start that just means he must have improved that much more as both a individual player and team player.
there is just no way in the world Boki should be starting for us. He's not ready yet. I think the definate starters are: Yao Jackson cat stevie I think the PF position can vary night to night to match who we are playing. For example, if we are playing a big team or someone like the Spurs, put Cato on to add a bit of defensive pressure and crash some boards.
I gotta agree. Cat's a top 10-12 SG in the league. The only ones that you can 100% put over him are: T-Mac Ray Allen Kobe Vince Carter AI Pierce (If he's even a 2?) Other than that, you really can't put many people that far above Cuttino. He's got just as good a chance as any other 2-guard of making the rest of the list...
I know. It seems everytime we played Detroit the past few years, Ben Wallace keeps getting rebounds and blocks for the OTHER team! I mean, we've asked him nicely so many times.
The above starting lineup (ie, Boki) is purely insane. Why would anyone want to risk a regular season game on a shooter who can't even shoot against newbies/rooks during the Summer league & pre-season? When Yao or Stevie get double-teamed, toss the ball to the opening shooter Boki and then what? MISS !!! Boki can't even handle the easy stuff, you really put the team at risk, using him as a starter to play at the much intensity games? He can't handle it baby.
I think it's really unrealistic to expect Boki to start barring another injury to the team. He's pretty much a rookie and rookies don't start on teams with decent records (like the Rox), unless they're playing like superstars or are expected to be superstars. While Boki has played better this preseason I can't imagine him starting over JJ, Pike, or AG unless he puts together amazing games in the last 2 preasons games. Regarding the Cat, I definitely think he's a top 10 or top 12 Shooting Guard, but the opposing side would say that it's not big thing to be in the top 10 or 12 at the SG position when most teams have very similiar guys at that position. In any case for arguments sake here are guys that play time at SG (some may be small forwards) who I think are among the league's best. Where would Cat rank? In any case, in terms of value per $ he's high on my list. Cat is a bargain for what we pay him and let's not forgot that. Definitely curious to see if we have enough basketballs for Stevie, Yao, and Cat this year though. Less of a problem than Dallas, Minny, or LA I guess. Ray Allen Kobe Bryant Vince Carter Doug Christie Ricky Davis Desmond Mason Michael Finley Penny Hardaway Richard Hamilton Allan Houston Allen Iverson Bobby Jackson Eddie Jones T-Mac Mike Miller Reggie Miller Paul Pierce Michael Redd Jason Richardson Jalen Rose
My starting (5) ,, really all depends on how well JVG thinks BOKI can handle the starting SF role ,, while Pike is injured. PG - Steve SG - Jim Jackson SF - BOKI ( Pike ,, when healthy ) PF - Cato C - Yao off the bench.. Cuttino Mo Tay Moochie Pike ( starts when healthy ) I think CAT Mobes is a very good SG.. However, with his injuires so far,, he has not put in alot of game time this pre-season to adapt to the JVG system. You don't need all of your fire-power in the starting 5 when your mainstay will be the inside - out game in the early minutes.. Bringing Mobes off the bench first ( as a 6 man ) will allow him to focus on distroying the other teams .. reserves.. more often than not either Steve or Yao will be on the bench when he enters the game .. and he will be the 2nd option on the court at that time. Bottom line.. I really believe Mobley wants to win, and his early injuiries justify him coming off the bench,,, and if the team is rolling & winning early,, no reason to tinker with the rotation at that time.. My biggest concern.. can BOKI fill in until Pike is ready.. The SF in the inside low game.. must hit the outside jumper consistently.. Boki's on-ball defense is suspect,, but so would Pike's ,, but Pike can hit the jumper consistently.. If Boki is not ready ( which he probably is not .. but we will see how he plays the next 2 games ) .. Then .. JVG will have no choice but to start J.Jackson at the (3 ) and Cuttino at the (2). So.. hears to a good season... Let's the good times ROLL .. ( I hope )
C Yao F Cato - until Motay or Eggie step up... if they step up F JJ- although I think EP should get a lot PT here G CM- although I think EP should get a lot PT here as well G SF 6th EP or Cuttino 7th MoTay 8th Moochie or Wilks- give Wilks a chance if Moochie sux 9th AG and EG I really hope EG steps it up a notch. otherwise he's going to get left behind the rest of the team. JJ is a vet who has shown in the past that he can be a scoring threat. I think he'll come around and having Yao at the post will make JJ's job a lot easier. Boki should be used as a reserve player... either backup 3 or 3rd string behind AG. I think having Cuttino and Motay come in with the second unit will only improve our team in the long run, but who is a better option to start at the two other than Mobes. Motay should get the ball just about every time he is in there with the second unit... the guy can score and most of you will agree. We have too many injuries right now... Eggie is having his crisis... other than that... THIS IS THE BEST TEAM WE"VE HAD IN 4 YEARS Aries
Your kidding right? What the heck are you thinking about benching the best center in the world to come for about 15 years. You should be banned from this forum. Don't even joke about that. From where I come from, if you talk like that you get punched right dead in the face.
I'm gonna assume you are responding to lsjluke...the reply with quote button would be effective in conveying your annoyances about a post... with that said, that was posted to provoke a response...why give him the pleasure? and if they banned people for making stupid statements, we would only have 30 people in here.
Let's get real. The starting line-up we will see opening day is: Franics Mobley Jimmy Jackson Taylor Ming Cato will see some time at 4 and 5 and see significant minutes Boki will have to prove himself in game situations Pike will get significant time at 2 and 3 A. Griff will get significant time and 2 and 3 unless we can upgrade the 4......
I was just about to post the same lineup. I don't see how there really could be any other possibility barring injuries. Really people, let's not be so clueless about our own team (oh wait its not your own team).
I find it absolutely amazing how many people think Boki is going to start. He constantly turns the ball over, can't hit an outside shot with any consistency and plays perhaps the worst defense I have ever seen in the NBA.
