If Shareef didn't have the ball yet, and he was trying to get low post position, I'd rather have the 230 pound Griffin trying to keep him out of his comfort spot than 210 pound Posey. j
Getting Adrian Griffin is a pretty good move. Considering we can't resign Posey. I don't know why everyone thinks he's a great defender. He's just a decent defensive player, he can't hit anything outside. He does have grit & plays hard most of the time, like Mavericks's Najera but without the shots.
The only reason Posey gets steals is because he gambles on defense. He never steals it from the man he is covering. It is usually from an entry pass. He gets lit up consistently by his man. Hell Shandon Anderson lit him in the NY game. The guy is a slight above average defender at best, and a guy who couldn't shoot a lick until the last 20 games of his 4 year contract at worse. When did Posey become such a god on this board. People were even suggesting that he start at the 2 spot in front of Cat.
imo, it comes from the mobley and rudy hatas, and backseat coaching crowd. funny thing is: Jeff Van Gundy is the coach now. He picked Piatkowski and Griffin to pass on Posey, and he likely has half the MLE to still use. Anyone who says Piatkowski and Griffin and MLE room left over Posey is r****ded are fans who are stuck thinking they know more than Rudy, and forget that <b>a new coach</b> made these acquisitions. So, you can always tell the backseat coaches in times like this. They still think they know more than everyone, yet JVG made the picks and they aren't willing to come out and blame this on JVG. come on, RIET and JR....bottomline...you need to come straight out and blame this on JVG...and!! while you still don't know if he is done dealing, yet. Backseat coaches are a dime a dozen.
It doesn't take a backseat coach to know these so-called players have never been considered legitimate NBA starters. But of course at age 30, they will experience a renaissance to address all their previous weaknesses. I don't know if Jerry West has lost his touch or not. However, he has a pretty good track record and I wouldn't call him a backseat coach or a backseat anything other than one of the most brilliant NBA players/GM that has ever lived.
I have seen Griffin's game a handful of times and I really like what he brings to the table. He reminds me of someone we got last year in a trade for Kenny Thomas. His offense is somewhat unproven, but he plays great defense and can run the floor. don't forget the fact that he played meaningul minutes on a playoff team. Good deal guys
ive seen a grif's plays many times. and imo, he's a great snatch for the rocs. he's like jposey but much cheaper. now i dont care whether we resign jposey or not. a grif is a great addition to the rocs.
He is a good defender and plays hard,doesn't score much but he is better than Hawkins.He can play at both the 2 and 3 but at 6'5" he looks like he will be a backup for Mobley as a 2 more than a 3.Pike is a 2 as well and can get some minutes at the 3,so I'm expecting Rice and Boki as the SF starters and Pike/A.Griffin to back them up as well as playing at the 2 spot. I do wonder how the Cat will react to all this.
How many teams have 5 "legitimate" NBA starters...and why does that matter? You don't understand...many of the people who are happy with this acquistion know full well that Adrian Griffin isn't a "legitimate NBA starter," as you call it, and they're still happy.
I pretty much agree with this. Griffin and Pike are specialists--and one is 32. Posey had the potential to be a Rocket for a long time--all he really had to do to be a great role player (not a bit role player like the other 2) was to increase his shooting a tad--he was was already providing tremendous intangebles in defense, rebouding, easy baskets, etc. I understand the monitary argument for this approach--I just disagree this is the right call concerning this Posey sitation. You almost always lose by taking one better or higher potential player and splitting it into two lesser, more specialized players--be it trade or whatever. This is what we have done, and it wasn't like Posey's contract was unreasonable and he hasn't had a great work ethic. What everyone hammering on Posey also forgets is a division foe with a GM with a great track record, representing a team with a more bleak financial outlook and with more depth at Posey's positions, felt the positives far outweighed the risks concerning Posey/his contract. IMO with no changes in our forward spots we have cemented a team with its best hope next year as a first round obliterazation. Barring a mircale growth by EG, our collection of forwards are simply the weakest in the league and no matter what Yao and SF does there are two many weak spots. Shoot Kobe and Shaq couldn't advance a athletically challenged, forwardless, team--I don't know why we think we can. Most of us advocating Posey very much recognize Mobley's contributions and see Posey as our starting SF. The problem with the Rockets is not they have no even averagish quality players after Yao, Francis & Cat--Posey was the best chance to give us 4 quality starters.
Couldn't have said it better. Great role player, great defensive player and can create his own shot at times. Stuart
Then just say it. You are backing the man who passed on the ROY and blaming JVG. Say it!! Blame this on JVG. You don't have the guts to do that right now, much less start a thread about it. imo, you are stuck in some fantasy world of blaming Rudy for everything, and forgetting there is a new coach to blame.
Good signing. He reminds me of Terence Morris. He is a quiet guy..just like Eddie Griffin. It's neat that both Griffin's are from Seton Hall. In my opinion, Adrian Griffin is not much worse than Jimmy Jackson. He looks kinda old though....he's not much worse than Posey either. Piatkowski plus Griffin plus saving money is better than James Posey. ROLE PLAYERS! By the way.....he was more efficient that Mo Taylor and Moochie Norris. He looks decent offensivily from his photo gallery. Too bad he can't shoot from behind the arc though. Hopefully he can improve his shooting. I think he's a lefty too. And yeah....we need a minimum salaried PF/C banger type......you mean Charles Oakley?!? Who else?
Yes, I knew you were joking, and I was doing the same. I guess sarcasm is hard to distinguish sometimes.
