not bad, good defender, but no offense, we shoulda got keon clark instead. 2 griffins doesn't sound promising.
umm. Last year Minesota started KG at sf for a majority of the year because Sczerbiak was hurt. PF was Joe Smith. Center Nestorivic. Nowitzki on the other hand plays any position anytime and if u read an article about Dallas it says that they are trying to acquire a big man to move dirk to sf. and last year Tmac played sf.. because they started armstrong/vaugh at pg and giricek at sg. Tmac has always been their sf, only when gimpy hill play does he move over to sg. but that is very rare.
I don't get this infatuation on this board with lamar odom. The guy does not have a good shot, turns the ball over a lot, is not that laterally quick, and needs the ball in his hands to be productive. He is a terrible fit here, as yao and then francis need the ball in their hands for us to win already. We don't get better, but worse if we take it away from them so odom can have his touches, sorry. And Posey has gone from underrated when we first traded for him to now overrated since we aren't keeping him. What a shock! The guy is a good defender and a mediocre at best shooter, in an offense where we will be center oriented in the future. Another decent at best fit. And we got a pure shooter who we desperately needed and a sg/sf who can do just as much if not more for way less money than posey will get in memphis. This has been a damn good offseason if you ask me. We don't need another superstar to add to the mix, we have ours in francis and yao, what we needed were good veteran role players who have court savvy as well. Pike and Griffin have more court sense and calm demeanor on the court than James Posey ever could wish for. I still remember his actions against Dallas, and while I liked him, if he really wanted to stay and win, why would he go to Memphis in the first place. And the fact remains, Griffin plus Pike improves us more than Posey staying and no other moves would. Just because the rockets aren't making a controversial big splash doesn't mean they haven't had a good offseason. In fact, I would contend we don't need that big splash and that it might do more harm than good if you ask me.
A) Pau Gasol doesn't play the three. He might have one game or something, but he generally doesn't. B) Posey was a very good defender. But there was no wya in hell he was going to be able to guard the Pau Gasol, Dirk Nowitzki's of the world either. He may have done a slightly better job, but his askign price was too high - and Posey was probably my favorite player last year - he knew his role and played to it. Piatkowski and Griffin both know their role as well, will fill the void that they were brought in to fill (Piatkowski = shooting, Griffin = defense). To be honest, I am flabbergasted at how successful the Rockets are being this offseason in identifying problems and filling them with good talent in a fiscally responsible manner. Coming into the offseason, the Rockets three biggest problems, imo, were: 1) Shooting, shooting, shooting 2) Defense - they improved greatly, but still have a lot of work to do, especially when it comes to stopping guard penetration 3) the PF spot - will Eddie or Mo step up and be respectable this season CD has addressed both one and two without continuing to mortgage the future as has been the case the past few seasons. How, or if, he will address 3 with a move is the remaining question.
Would Portland make a Rice + Mobley for McInnis, Patterson and their choice of Wells or Anderson trade? Yao/Cato MoT/EG Wells or Anderson/Griffin/Boki/Patterson Francis/Pike/Patterson McInnis/Francis Someone would have to be out of the rotation, btu I suspect Steve would move back to the 1 a lot, meaning McInnis starts but doesn't play as much as most starters since Steve is capable. Basically, Steve would still be getting about 20 minutes at PG, which leaves 18 minutes at SG, which leaves 30 minutes at SG for Pike and Patterson. Would Portland make this deal with Anderson or Wells? Mobley and Rice have a clean reputation as far as I remember, and the Blazers are putting huge emphasis on that, and remember we're also taking Patterson off their hands. Thoughts? We wouldn't need to sign anyone else, full roster.
this is good stuff. i can see griffin being a mix between a mario elie and a chucky brown type character. a lot of what this guy brings to the game isnt shown in the stats.
Trade Posey at 4.9M for Adrian Griffin and Piatowski, who, combined wouldn't make as much during their combined contracts than Posey would make in his first 2 years? Pike and Griffin is not an upgrade over Posey, but it's not a downgrade, and it's cheaper.
Well if that's the case, I guess I have no choice but to hate you back. Then again, you're the guy who had the chance to date a pornstar, so I guess I have you respect and like you. Eh, I still hate you, if only "hate" in this case secretly means "envy."
well....atleast he is black you guys, he got game kuz of that unlike Piatwhitey. Hopefully he will produce and learn from rice and show mr small white guy nachbar a thing or two defensively honestly i think this pick up and the keeping of rice is to teach nachbar. If you look at it nachbar can learn and strengthen parts of this game based on these two to become an amazing player. Rice=experience street smarts and shooting, Griffin=driving Bodying up How to use his body. Im overall happy about it
We should just protest to the NBA so we can start 14 players- C- Yao PG- Francis SG- Mobley PF- Griffin Proposals to NBA: SF 1A: Piatkowski SF 2A: Glenn Rice SF 3A: Adrian Griffin SF 4A: Bostjian Nachbar SF 5A: Jellybean Bryant SF 6A: Bill Willougby SF 7A: Buck Johnson SF 8A: Sam Mack SF 9A: Richard Simmons SF 10A: Gene Simmons
First off, Adrian Griffin isn't a worthless scrub like you seem to think. He had a very good rookie year in boston, even got talk about ROY that year. When he gets 15 or more minutes he shot 42 percent from the floor at least. So what he isn't a 3 point shooter, posey wasn't one either. I'd rather take a cheap griffin who is a posey lite if you want to say, combined with the 3 point shooting of eric piatkowski for less than what it would cost the rockets to keep James. Posey's best year shooting, this year, is 43.9% from the floor, and 32.6% from 3 point land. Griffin's is 42.4, when he gets substantial minutes(or at least similar to posey). Griffin hasn't had two years of 3 point shooting like posey had but look at posey's career, he has been in the high 20's all but last year(contract year) and his rookie year, which you could call a fluke. And griffin had a similar fluke year from 3 pt land his 2nd year in boston. Considering both are good rebounders and defenders, and griffin comes 3-4 mil cheaper than posey, I'll take griffin thank you very much. Neither are any more than good role players anyway. Then you add a good shooter like piatkowski to complement Yao and the double teams he will receive still for less than it costs us to keep Posey and I'm ecstatic. It's not an earth shattering deal, but it's not supposed to be. We are now a better team on paper than we were at the end of last year, with possibly some of the MLE left to get another quality role player. CD has done his job quietly but efficiently this offseason, to the chagrin of some posters here who think everything has to be a super huge acquisition. I for one like this simple but effective offseason, and if we pull off a good blockbuster for us, by all means I'm for it. But adrian griffin does not suck, and so far I think the rockets have had a successful offseason, and are better on paper than they were last year.
thank you for the objectivity, baqui and RIET. The last couple of years when the Rockets played Dallas, i begged for Nelson to put Griffin in. He is TERRIBLE. and the notion that AG plus Piatkowski is better than Posey is r****ded. Hawk is better than Griffin straight up.
