Sorry, I was countiing guys that were actually playing, rather than old guys who were too hurt to play. But I'm sure Fox's productivity outshines that of Posey manyfold given proper spin ("winner!" 'role player!") If by, "most people" taking Bowen over Posey in a heartbeat, you mean the bashers here who perpetualy lust after the green grass ont he other side of the fence, then you're right. If you mean NBA GM's, that's a laughable contention given their respective ages and capabilities, regardless of whatever cliches are available. The Rockets offered James Posey a contract. The Mavericks didn't offer Griffin one, nor am I sure if his first NBA stop did either. I wonder if the third time will be the charm.
Pike averaged 20 minutes on the Clippers because that team has better players at his position. Posey played starting 3 because both the Nuggets and Rockets didn't have quality 3s. Their minutes depend on circumstances so I prefer not to take them seriously. I think Pike is more suited for the Rockets. We are dying for a consistent sharp shooter to keep the defense honest, particularly with the alleged slow-it-down inside-outside offense that JVG will be running. Something I don't see Posey will prosper in.
As much as I hate Fox, I wold say he is better than Posey. Fox go injured in the playoffs so Devean got the starts because of the season ending injury. Kind of like Tmo and Moochie starting for us 2 years ago. What I mean by "most people" is people who actually have watched both of them play. Bowen is a better defender than Posey, he is a better 3 point shooter than Posey, smarter than posey and he isn't a classless punk like Posey (remember the dallas game?) Also, San Antonio had plenty of cap space to look for someone to replace Stephen Jackson, and they weren't even interested in Posey. The only teams that were interested in Posey where Chicago and Memphis who both suck arse. The only thing that Bowen does worse than Posey is shoot free throws. And when you mentioned if "the third time will be the charm." Were you talking about Griffin or Posey?
Everyone here knows I don't like Posey, there is no secret about that. I questioned the trade when we made it. The reason I don't like Posey has nothing to do with him being a classless punk. I thought Sir Charles was a classless punk, but I loved him. I think AI is a classless punk, and I would trade anyone on this team not named Yao for him. My dislike for Posey stems from the fact he a overrated defensive player that can't get the ball into the basket. Also we were destined for the playoffs last year with KT last year and we traded it away for him. He being a classless punk just makes it easier.
I think it's good that Posey isn't coming back next season, he just wasn't what the Rox needed at the 3 and the extra money should be helpful, but the trade the Rox pulled for him by getting rid of KT was a good idea at the time. Then again I'm not too happy about picking up Griffin.. I mean, why sign him when we could just sign Hawkins and/or TMo? Is Griffin really that much better than them? I can't see how that's true. Pike brought something the Rox definitely needed, Griffin supposedly brings D but I think his "very good" D may be overrated. I think the Rox could have tried to go after a better player than Griffin, at the very least try to get someone else and wait on Griffin, I doubt too many teams would be competing to get him. Guess we'll see how it all turns out when the season starts. Still, so far not a bad offseason.
Bottom line: Signing Posey would not put us over the top or make us contenders in any way. Why put all of that money in a player now when its not gonna put us over the top. THe best thing to do is to be frugal, so that we dont end up in salary cap hell when it comes time to resign Yao. There is no use spending the money now when next year the MLE could get us a much better player. Keep in mind that next year pretty much all but like 5 or 6 teams will be over or near over the cap. The MLE could get us a much better player than posey, plus we can make trades easier with less salary. Keep in mind its not out of the question for the rockets to trade away one of their big contracts like Cato's and Taylor's for an expiring deal. Of course the rockets would have to sweeten the deal with picks or a player like EG or Boki. But when Rice's contract comes off we will be over the cap by a few million. If we could get ride of Cato, who i think could benefit a team in need of a center, and get back an expiring deal we would be in the mix for a player much talented than Posey. Just something to keep in mind, wait while your not contending till something better comes along.
Do you have any idea what you are talking about. They got a 1st round and 2nd round pick for the deal. We have up KT and #2 to get Posey, we offer him and extenttion early this summer at like 2.5 mil--we clearly thought/think he was valuable. We just might not think he is worthy the extra 2.4mil + possible lux tax. Its OK to say you think we did the right move with Posey leaving and adding Pike/AG--but do a little thinking/fact checking next time. You do know Posey shot 44% from the field, 33% from 3 and 83% from the line for us last year. Those figures are not much different than SF or CM. Posey certainly is far from a Pike caliber of shooter, but he isn't a bad shooter or offensive player in general. I suggest you stick to threads you have an once of objectivity and credibility on. Damn fine post Macbeth, I am working on having you mindset about it.
