Sorry, but I strongly disagree. Although I like J. Posey and felt he was an excellent addition, adding a much needed dimension to the team, he is definitely not worth an average of approx. $6 mil. per.
I like this move. A solid role player, plays sound D, and now gives us much needed depth. All we need from him is a solid 15-20 minutes a game, which we know he can do. Poor JP He may have more $ now, but you have to believe that he is feeling ill knowing that he left his home to play for Memphis.
blame JVG? blame Rudy? WTF are you talking about? how about blaming Les because he won't spend the money? why don't you admit that instead of trying to make the ludicrous argument that PKowski + AG is better than Posey?
I don't really understand how the outpouring of emotion for Terrence Morris' gutwrenching departure comparatively dwarfs any misgivings about dumping Posey for a re-tread. But I don't understand a lot of things I guess.
I dunno what to think of this addition. It seems A. Griffin could have some health problems and he doesn't seem to be any sort of offensive force. And his D may be decent, but was he really worth anything? , plus he probly couldn't match up that well with some of the bigger sf's. Then again getting Pike and Griffin does seem to fill needs on the Rox roster (I would've rather we got Bell, and pick up TMo and Hawkins). And I agree that Pike, Griff, plus having some of the MLE left over is > than Posey. Posey doesn't deserve so much money and I never was that high on him anyways. The KT-Posey trade was a good trade last season, but losing Posey is no big deal. Still our lineup seems to be screwy now at sf and sg, I wonder how it'll all be worked out... Hopefully without trading Mobley. I think a lineup of: Francis/Norris Mobley/Pike/Bell TMo/Hawkins/Nachbar Griffin/MoT/TMo Yao/Cato would have been very nice. Notice Rice is NOT in there.
Because TMo was developing into the perfect role player who plays D, can spot the 3 and 4, and can hit the open shot (although not from 3 pt land but from just inside the arc), plus he wouldn't command very much salary. Nobody understands why he was let go...... Posey on the other hand wasn't a clear cut fit and wanted much moolah.
You don't understand why Morris was let go? I have an explantion to offer: He is a career 10th man, nothing more. I suppose you can call him "developing" because he didn't repeat his abysmal rookie season (that would have sent most 2nd round picks packing if they hadn't invested a 1st in him).\ Maybe, if he works hard, he can be as valuable as Adrian Griffin someday. I don't know if morris found a new job yet but I have a feeling that his phone wasn't ringing off the hook. Say what you will about posey, but at least teams were competing for his talents.
I'm not totally familiar with Adrian Griffin's play, but I would put out that TMo, if he got any pt at all, would show that he's at least Griffin's equal, and has potential to be more. And yes he had a pretty bad rookie season, but I don't think you can argue the fact that he was getting much better and could have been a very good bench player backing up the 3 and 4 as matchups allow. I agree Posey is more talented right now, actually a lot more talented, but for the money in the Rox cash-strapped situation I'd be more than happy to go with TMo.
I don't know if someone mentioned it but I think that Griffin will be our "Bruce Bowen". We badly need a player as AD.
Hawkins could probably become a player a little closer to being a Bruce Bowen type player, down to the higher 3 pt% than fg% shooting and height, than Griffin.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't KG start at small forward practically every game last season.... and Dirk started Many games at SF as well.
You are correct. Whatever arbirtary label Dirk started as, he frequently plays out on the perimeter, runs the floor, and shoots 3's. Call him a small forward or power forward or whatever, but that's what he does. You can't exactly guard him with Maurice Taylor when he's doing that. The continual infatuation with labels that is pervasive around here at times( "Steve is a 2, he must be moved to 2, or else western civilization will crumble!") borders on the absurd. Put the best players you have on the court.
I don't know why people around here are so in love with Posey. The guy played hard every night and was a good defender. Besides that, I don't think he is anything that is (and has not) been easily replaceable. He CERTAINLY did not command the type of money he got from Vancouver. I think Posey is definitley overrated around these parts... seems like when the Rockets let someone go, thats when the love starts to pour on that particular player.
Nero, Keep the politics off the board. If I wanted to point out all of the dumb Bushisms over the last 3 years, I could start my own thread that would crash the server. Let talk basketball, not politics.
Thanks for posting the true story on AG. Being in Dallas, I got to see a lot of AG and while he doesn't suck or blow chunks, he's nothing special either. Basically, they are replacing Posey with an older slower player. I'm not too keen on adding more holes to a team already full of holes but he did come cheap and that's the operative word around the Rockets these days.
you seem to be the one infatuated with labels. and stop using dirk and kg as examples, they are two of the most versatile players in the league, of course they can play anywhere, except bring the ball up the court. The fact is teams are made up of big men who are categorized as centers/powerforwards; small men who are categorized as guards; and middle sized men who are categorized as forwards. But yes it is true that there is the 'rare players' like Dirk, Kg, and Pippen whose versatility allows them to play all over the court, but unfortunatley 'Francis is not one of them.'
How about this HP. How come Memphis, with better swingmen then we have and worse financial outlook, offered JP the MLE? The case with playoff playoff teams not offering Posey is moot--compare their collection of 3's with ours and you will see why. If we had guys like Marion (Phx) or Peja/JJ (Sac) or Wells/Patterson (Port) or Finley/Dirk (Dal) or Wally/KG (Min) or even the less than overlly impressive Manu/Bowen/Hedo (SA) or Harpring/AK (Utah) or Fox/George (LAL) to throw in the 3 spot maybe Posey would have been expendable--but guess what, we don't. With Posey we could at least be competitive at the 3 spot with the bottom tier--now there is no playoff (nor non-playoff tier) we can hang with at the 3 spot, it is even worse we you consider the collection of (3 & 4 spot) forwards which magnifies the weaknesses each has on their own. Further, I didn't see 16 playoff teams trying to outbid us for Pike or AG either--so does that mean they are worthless to us or that we overpaid? Since others are being so drammatic (and snide), I might as well be: I just don't fathum how so many smart people can't figure out how badly our forwards are going to get us killed next year versus any kind of competition. I guess I should look for silver linings: 1) one positive is we no longer have the 4 spot being the biggest weakness in the team--not exactly the method I would have approached fixing this problem, but oh well, 2) another is with a mild surprise in the west (LAC, Sea?) we could easily have the chance at adding another lottery picked forward, 3) assuming there is no surprise regarding #2, I do honestly think we still should be able to land the 8th seed w/o Posey (because we only need a 500 record)--we should be put out of our playoff misery extra quick with as little help as Yao & our backcourt are going to get.
