You need star players to win the title, right now we have zero. Don't get me wrong I like Martin, Lowry, and Scola, but none of these guys are going to make a team contenders. Therefore, adding Nene is pointless, he really won't be putting the team over the top. This team needs to rebuild its quite simple, star players go where other stars are, and the Rockets don't got any. The team needs to make a 5 year rebuild plan and somehow get back into the top tier of teams. If the Rockets go with the core right now, this team won't be going anywhere anytime soon.
Completely agree. Right now this team is treading water. I would look into trading some or most of our top players for very high draft picks.
Dont worry. The front office knows this as well as you do, and thats why they will only sign Nene if they know he can be traded in a deal for a superstar. Look at the key pieces Martin, Scola, and Lowry. All of these guys have high value contracts that could be traded easily. The Rockets will try to sign Nene, but the catch is the contract must be easily moved if a star becomes available. Heck, they might be looking at Nene strickly as another trading piece. If they can get Nene on the right contract, it only helps this team in pursuit of a superstar, and could help get them in the playoffs at the same time. Getting Nene on the right contract IS a step towards rebuilding.
Yeah like superstars get traded all the time Obviously it does happen, but winning the sweepstakes is easier said than done. I don't the future of the franchise should be based on hoping someone becomes available and then crossing your fingers on getting the right deal in place.
Hence why it has to be the right contract for Houston to agree. Didnt say it was a likely marriage, but both sides will try and court each other between now and December 10th.
The front office and ownership are determined to focus on trading for quality players rather than tank for hopes of a top draft pick. Thats the reality that us as fans have to live with. The Rockets obviously think the likelihood of trading for a star is much greater than striking gold in the draft. Signing Nene to a good deal only helps them in their quest, and helps wins games in the meantime. Other than the tanking vs trading argument, Im not sure why Rockets fans wouldnt want the front office to TRY and get Nene on a good contract. Of course it will be difficult to do so because of the reason Jopatmc just pointed out. Its much more likely though that they end up getting Fesenko on a value contract, or trading for an existing contract with another stop gap center like Biedrins.
The fact that dalembert made nearly 13.5 million is completely ****ing r****ded. 11 mil for nene is better, but still not worth it. Its a ****ing joke.
That sounds like an idiotic guesstimation to me. We do not need Nene or rebuild thoughts here because he is not the missing piece even if we get him.
Something to consider: Just because the Rockets sign Nene next month, it doesn't mean that Nene will still be on the roster by the start of the 2012-13 season. Morey has shown a willingness to sign a free agent and then flip that contract shortly thereafter for what he feels is a better fit or an improvement to the roster. Look at what he did with Trevor Ariza, signing him using the Yao Disabled Player Exception and then flipping him for Courtney Lee (a better player with a much more cap-friendly contract) just one year later. Don't be at all surprised if Nene gets mentioned in trade offers for Dwight Howard come February/March of 2012 or during the 2012 offseason. That would be a piece that Orlando would actually consider acquiring for Howard if the alternative was to lose him for nothing. Heck, if I'm Orlando, I'd probably rather have a 29/30-year-old Nene over the 31/32-year-old Pau Gasol (presumably on a MUCH larger contract) or the 24/25-year-old (but often injured) Andrew Bynum. Just saying, is all.
That's a pretty darn good idea. Nene's not a star, but I'd consider him on par with Martin or Scola in terms of desirability, and maybe a little less than Lowry. For the sake of argument, let's say we sign Nene for around 13 mil per. Our offer to Orlando is: -Pick any two of Lowry, Martin, Scola, and Nene (probably Lowry and Nene) -Pick one of Bud, Lee, Morris, or Donatas (probably Morris) -Patterson -We take on one of their small bad contracts (Reddick, Jameer, etc) -Some draft pick shuffling I have to think that that will be competitive with other offers that they will be fielding while still leaving enough of a core in place to field a strong team around Howard and convince him to stay. Signing Nene is key because it keeps our overall talent level from being completely depleted by the trade, thus losing us Howard after a season. It's a risk because he still might leave as a free agent when his contract is up, but I don't know where else we're going to find a game-changing superstar anytime soon. Besides, if he does bolt, we're in prime tanking position
Only max players signing with a team with which he's been with many years can get no traded under the most recent CBA, pretty sure the same will be true. Nene can't get a no trade clause.
Yep. Only Kobe and Dirk (and maybe Paul Pierce?) have no-trade clauses, as they have been the only star players able to even be eligible for them in the past decade.
nuggetsnews Benjamin Hochman For everyone askin odds on nene comin back, that will be better determined once free agency starts.. but nene loves city, and that is big
JoshInnesRadio Josh Innes #NBA Free Agency coming soon. #Rockets want Nene and I understand why. If Nene were added to current team you become a 5-8 seed maybe. :grin:
I'll bet tip jar $$ that the #6-#10 picks in the 2012 draft will have more upside/star potential then the players you just named, or other players that were available at those slots. 2012 is loaded if the league doesn't make kids stay for 2 years.
