Rockets showing interest in trading for Ricky Rubio?

never said we were and obviously for good reason hes nowhere near that area. but that doesn't mean at the end of the day he just can't shoot which is the primary basis of the criticism here. And trying to push the blame towards teammates is really just a scapegoat when were talking about his own individual characteristics.

 

Also wanted to clarify something about Rubio's shooting that seems to be misunderstood (and again, I'm a fan).

It's not the career 32% 3 point shooting that's the problem, or even the 48% under the basket. It's that 40% of his shots are midrange jumpers and he's horrible at making them. He's also below average in the paint, but he did seem to take a step forward there this year.

I think he can improve as a 3 point shooter. He's never going to be an off the dribble guy, but he should be able to spot up and hit league average eventually. I'm not sure if the paint scoring will come around. But someone has got to reign him in on the mid range game. It's a soul crushing disaster.

 

Same here.

 

My biggest issue is he can't finish either. With guys like Rondo at least they can finish. Rubio has a bad percentage around the rim as well.

Guys like Rondo and Rubio don't fit in this high scoring era. Teams will be perfectly fine playing percentages and letting him shoot all day and that will be a big problem when you consider how important spacing will be to this team

 

Bricky boobio

 

One of the reasons he'll be a better shooter as a Rocket. He's not going to take 40% of his jumpers from mid range here. And he's not going to have to take hardly any shots with Harden, Anderson, and Gordon around him. That's about as close to the 2008 Celtics as you can get offensively. In my opinion, a Rubio, Gordon, Harden, Nene, Anderson is a superior offensive unit when compared to 2008 Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Perkins, Garnett. Defensively? Lots of question marks. But offensively that unit would be better than that Celtics team.

Interestingly the 08 Celtics are a good comparable with Pierce/Rondo. Pierce was older than Harden is now but he did have to relinquish senior playmaking status to make room for Rondo. When he did that the team's offensive efficiency went through the roof. Pierce got off about a hundred more 3-point bombs than the year before with the additions of Allen, Garnett, and the installation of Rondo running the point. Pierce actually increased his assists and lowered his turnovers while Rondo handled the bulk of the dirty work up top and helped Pierce into the latter portion of his career with a championship. Rondo took 19 3-point shots that season. He simply didn't have to shoot the 3. The floor was spread. He could penetrate and throw it to Harden, Gordon, Anderson......err Pierce, Allen, Garnett and let them shoot it.

 

You're right and you best expressed my concerns with Rubio as well. For this to be successful, it will take not only Rubio staying healthy (but we have a few concerns for that this coming season), but for both Harden and Rubio to alter their games somewhat. They both need to play off the ball more and Rubio needs to improve his shot - both tall orders.

But at least we'd have a PG besides Beverley who can defend PGs.

 

Agreed this is the point!! People are focusing on his individual talent of shooting and forgetting all of his strengths. Is he a good shooter? No. Is he or Patrick Beverley a good finisher? No. Is he a very good point guard? Yes. Is Patrick Beverley a good point guard? No. Does James Harden have any Steve Nash in him? Uh no way!! Is Rubios price tag high,? no. Are their better point guards in the league for this team? Of course. Are they as easy to attain as Rubio, someone who outside of shooting has many of the talents the other point guards of interest, no.

 

So maybe if the Rockets get Rubio, he can win us a championship like Rondo did, provided we also have the #1 defense in the NBA and enough offensive talent to limit the damage he does to offenses. Sounds like a great plan!

 

Exactly....Defenses now more than ever exploit such a liability and that'll be even more prevalent in the playoffs.

The problem with a pass first, second, third, and maybe fourth PG as opposed to a pass first, shoot second PG?

The former always seem to have an inability to shoot or score.... So they pass A LOT... Not simply cuz its there strength, but out of necessity.

Also because their playmaking ability is the primary value they bring while on the court offensively their assist numbers will often times be inflated due to overpassing or statpadding.

Rondo and Rubio ^

Passing is not always the correct decision and many times the defense will call for one to shoot or score especially in the league today where defenses can dictate that.

The latter PG is a true floor general because they're not a liability and can make all the necessary decisions. They can get their guys going... Create offense for ours... Lead the break and then also shoot when uncontested... Score when needed throughout or at pivotal points in the game.

I'll just say Chris Paul and Steve Nash^ .... the list really is long though.

 

It's a forgone conclusion... He's been in the league for five seasons... Those dudes you mentioned were never the consistent trash that Rubio has been shooting or finishing.... The moment Lowry got a real chance here to play he had developed a solid jumper... He improved more in Toronto, but he was a good offensive player prior.... Same can be said for Billups prior to Detroit.... Rubio has only shown ineptitude.

 

Please let the season start...

 

Didn't see any interest from Rox here ??? It was an interesting summer league for the Timberwolves at point guard. Kris Dunn flourished in the two games he played and then sustained a concussion and missed the rest of the Las Vegas portion. Last year’s first-round pick, Tyus Jones, a Minnesota native, took over and was named summer league MVP after leading the Timberwolves to the title game despite their 0-3 start. So where does that place Jones in the point guard hierarchy? Minnesota has Dunn, Ricky Rubio, and Jones, and Dunn is considered the team’s point guard of the future. Rubio may be on the trade block, but he has three years remaining on his contract at more than $41 million . . .

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/c...-around-nba/mITQTJZnPZTpRuhkJABBQK/story.html

 

per Woj
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/source...rade-overtures-for-ricky-rubio-224943249.html

 

Wouldn't mind that 20 year old PG jones.

DD

 

Spoiler

 

Nooooo why won't this thread die!

 

If Rockets start out bad this year, this will never ever die. I wish it would die.

 

Would they be down for some random combination of Bev/Ariza/Whoever?

 

I'd say yes, i think Thibs likes them, and they kinda need some veterans imo. But what if the Kings can offert Gay/McLemore/Collison/one of their young bigs? Eh...i think Trevor and Pat are better fits for the Wolves, but that's just my opinion.