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Rockets showing interest in trading for Ricky Rubio?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Disciple2123, Jun 25, 2015.

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  1. Sen89

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    Lowry could get to the rim though, and his shot wasn't broken (form-wise), he just never expanded his range early on.

    Rubio on the other hand is one of the most awful shooting (and scoring) PGs in NBA history. Not only does he shoot 48.1 TS% overall (45.2 TS% last year), but he finishes only 46.7% of his shots at the rim. That's mind-blowingly bad. Many players get destroyed for finishing under 55% of their shots at the rim, just because a decent number of those shots are going to be uncontested.

    He's an abysmal shooter from every range, and one of the league's absolute worst from the corner - 9.1% on corner threes last year and 19.2% the season before. And playing off of Harden + in our offense, that shot is incredibly important.

    His reputation coming into the league has somehow overrode his glaring weaknesses/pitfalls in his game for some, who seem to romanticize him as a high-level PG. The fact is, he's not. He is a solid defender with good size and great court-vision and passing ability, but he's not a top-15 PG in a league full of great ones.
     
  2. basketballholic

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    Cyber's opinion about Rubio does not reflect Morey's.
     
  3. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    People pining for a PG that can't shoot (either from 3pt or midrange, Lowry was solid from midrange by the way while Rubio is simply atrocious) ARE idiots. They are basically that r****ded kid trying to shove a square peg through a round hole, hoping it will eventually fit. Can Rubio improve his shooting? Maybe, anything is possible. Is that a gamble we should take that he might one day put enough effort to be a good shooter? It's not one I am willing to take.

    It is hilarious that you mention Shaun Livingston. No offense, but do you even watch basketball? He played on a team chock full of good shooters. They had multiple 40% snipers from downtown. Guess how many of those we had? We had one, Dwight Howard, and that was like out of 2 attempts. Livingston was bench player on a team with snipers that could cover for his weaknesses. Rubio needs to be part of a team that already has players who provide spacing. He cannot be part of a team that is in desperate need of MORE spacers.
     
  4. YOLO

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    In an offense that is based on shooting a ton of 3's then the answer is easily yes. debate has always been about fit. the parts of his game that are major flaws doesn't fit well as far as the system for houston.
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    The true idiots are the ones who think that shape of holes can never be changed.
     
  6. Mav-Hater

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    According to the COF's (Cyberx Only Fans), Morey's opinion in this case would be irrelevant. How is this possible anyhow that they differ. I thought the chain of info went from Morey to Cyberx to Clutchfans. I smell a rat here!!
     
  7. ROXTXIA

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    I don't think Rubio would be a great fit, and there's no indication he's on our radar, but stranger things have happened.

    You've had your flights of fancy on this board, too, if I recall correctly. Don't recall if posters called you "idiot" for it, though.
     
  8. Mav-Hater

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    I agree with you!! That's twice this year!! LOL:grin:
     
  9. J Sizzle

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    Says the "Trade Harden for Kevin Love" fanatic
     
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  10. YOLO

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    yeah the ones that think all of a sudden he can dramatically improve his shooting after how many years as a pro and how much off time he's had after not even being able to play full seasons. Not to mention his "attempts" of hiring extra help. Pretty sad this area has gotten worse as the years have gone by.
     
  11. bulkatron

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    GS has two max level guards, a max level wing (Green), a near max level super sub (Iggy), an elite defensive center on a bargain contract... And a bunch of role playing vets.

    Don't undersell the quality of GS's roster - we aren't just a move or two away from that kind of depth
     
  12. treyk3

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    Okay, conversation over, you need to work on yourself if you think using that word is appropriate.
     
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    Thank you for saying that.
     
  14. chenjy9

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    I am not going to waste time putting political spins on my words for overly sensitive people.

    People who think that we are going to change the shape of our hole for a player like Rubio are even bigger idiots. Weren't you the one who started the thread about trading Harden for Love?
     
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    lol any credibility left should be completely lost if that was actually said.
     
  16. eric.81

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    Come one now... this board is a community. Out of respect for your fellow posters, how hard is it to choose another word? Some of us have children, siblings, friends, etc. that have developmental disabilities and that's an extremely hurtful word.

    It's just one word man... don't do it to be politically correct. Do it out of the respect for your fellow Clutchfans men and women.

    /rant. Back to basketball.
     
  17. Dmo for 3mo

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    I'm not underselling their roster. I'm saying we need to continue to go after guys like ariza and not LMA. And yes we are 1 or 2 moves away from being that good. We already have Dmo, Ariza, Brewer, and Beverley which are plus role players comparable to GS's role players. Add another guard like collison or rubio and re-sign smith and we are 10 deep like them. We wouldn't have the shooters they have, but the talent level would be comparable.
     
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    I agree that I think morey was high on Rubio before we landed harden. Now that harden is on the team locked up for 3 more season I think the pg types he's after are more in the mold of eric bledsoe or even a Marcus smart as you have pointed out.

    I don't think a pass first ball dominant pg is in the plans for the rockets anymore because of harden being so ball dominant himslef. Our offense needs to look like the Miami Heat big 3 with lebron or really more like the cavs this season.

    I think we can all agree that harden is always going to have the highest usage rate on the team, with that said harden does need his klay Thompson/kyrie Irving/dywane wade out their with him for the rockets to be a legit dynasty for years to come.

    Hollic does Marcus smart remind you a little of utah Jazz darren Williams? Their games look Similar in the footage I have been watching trying to get a grasp on his game. I don't think he's quite the athlete Dwill was early on but smart seems to be the better defender and plays with more passion plus both are 6'4 bulky guys. Do you agree?
     
  19. chenjy9

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    You are right. Thinking about it further, I definitely did overstep some boundaries with that comment. I apologize to you, treyk3, and anyone else who might be offended. Sorry about that.

    The basic point is that Rubio does not fit and with our quickly closing window to win a championship, we aren't going to overhaul our team to try and fit a player who cannot hit the broadside of the barn.
     
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