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Rockets release Jeff Adrien, Ish Smith (UPDATED)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by redhotrox, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. benchmoochie

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    That's a pretty harsh statement. I think I would like to reserve that for Royce White.

    There are a lot of players with jacked up rookie seasons that are not reflective of future performance. Players can improve, which you have seem to just shut the lid on Canaan. An example would be Aaron brooks (from his second season to his third season). If he didn't suffer that leg injury near after that, then who's to say he'd still be a scoring machine.


    "The past is the best indicator of future performance." That's a good thing to look at the past - but when the past is 11 min average in 22 games, the sample size may be a little too small.

    I'm of the firm belief any player that is not largely limited physically can improve their game over the offseason to make it respectable in areas that it didn't lack.

    Looking at his stats, they aren't that great except the 4.0 points in 11 min stat. I went to or watched every game last year.
    All the times, you thought the rockets would develop the kid, they gave all minutes to LIN.

    Rather than try to fry this guy after one season of watching him, you should evaluate him on him getting more playing time within a given time frame. I don't think it's fair to judge the kid off 22 games averaging 11 min a game his rookie season to come up with a conclusion "he doesn't belong in the NBA"
     
  2. juicystream

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    Do you read what you respond to? Canaan didn't belong in the NBA last season. Improving this season doesn't change last season.
     
  3. AFS

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    He did it some last year. We occasionally rolled out the Beverley-Lin-Harden lineup.
     
  4. kemah

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    Adrien was too small for a PF. The best he can be would have been the far bench 'just in case" player. I can't understand why Ish wasn't he first player cut. He sucked and I can't understand why so many have a hard on for him.
     
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    Lin was pretty bad after his hot start to the season.

    You're probably right, that's why he was in the D-League developing.
     
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    You know at first I was a little upset about this Jeff Adrien release as most of you were until I remembered three words from 2009...

    Pops Mensa Bonsu

    Now I'm not too upset cause he was in the same situation as Adrien and look where he is now. Not saying Jeff will fizzle out to nothing, but we will be ok.
     
  7. Dclay85

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    Pops came in and played his tail off in pre season and everyone wanted him to stay, then his true nature started to show
     
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    Ish is only the third-best PG cut today; Will Bynum and Gal Mekel are better than him. There is a good pool of unemployed PGs to choose from if emergency arises.
     
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    As much as we loved his hustle and contributions, he was doing this with preseason minutes. It's a different story in the regular season, and he wouldn't get the minutes he got during preseason. I see him as our Mike Harris, a great hustle guy that everyone loves but ultimately just a bench warmer or D-League hero.
     
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    I hope McHale does his job because Adrien was probably the only PF that could mentor our young PFs in the locker room

    Dorsey is not bright and fouling out too much, Black and Capela are rookies,
    Jones and Dmo still inconsistent and rising, Howard has not been playing PF since his rookie days and too much of a goofball

    Who is left? McHale was of another era and cannot monitor everything
     
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    If you follow Morey and I know you have been doing that closely, you will come to realize that guy had his share of problems finding the right PF in all those years (He was not the guy that brought Scola over I guess)

    I do not know what it is but this guy fails to bring in a legit PF most of the time.
    He is chasing after ghosts like Chris Bosh and Nowitzki but fail to have a fallback plan when it comes to getting a legit PF. (Mostly undersized and not good enough)

    Or he disposes them (mediocre at that time) rather quickly (Landry, Patterson, Hill............) and they play decent enough elsewhere

    IMO Morey does not value the PF spot it had dawned to me long ago.

    Adrien was the guy who could mentor young cubs and radiate stability.
     
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    I wouldn't mind signing Will Bynum. He's actually a workable backup.
     
  13. benchmoochie

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    you bring up a good point. I think ever since Kenny Thomas we have been cursed. Was morey the GM for Kenny Thomas too?
     
  14. daywalker02

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    Morey has been assistant GM in about 1997 and became GM shortly after IIRC.

    It should be noted in history and also in statistics that the last championships were won by a SF or a PF.

    And in the Celtics and Lakers years PF played a vital role.

    They still view Center and other spots more important due to tradition
     
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    *won by them in a leading role/function
     
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    in 2007

    my bad
     
  17. benchmoochie

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    Ok Kenny Thomas was drafted in 1999. another undersized PF. More recently, I just remember him drafting Dorsey over Deandre Jordan and thinking. Not good!
     
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    LOL at your daily drivel here. your pure comedy's even an upgrade over LHutz at this point. Double LOL :grin:
     
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    Hi new member

    I know this isn't the thread to post questions about rockets telecasts but I will be moving to Tyler and would so much appreciate it if anyone could tell me if they broadcast the rockets and/or Texans there. Thank you
     
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    So i goes for something sweet like maybe chocolate... and i getz pennies... !?! :mad:
     

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