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[Rockets-Raptors] Collapse started after Tmac's ...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rock8ts, Dec 9, 2007.

  1. deeperblue

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    Not sure about this, but I don't really like T-Mac. I don't think he works hard, and he is not tough enough, although he has all the raw talents.

    Many times, his shot are just too careless, like long 3s in a fastbreak when there is even no teammates underneath the basket. When he wants, he can make great passes, but a lot of other times, he just behaves too carelessly on the court.

    Self-centered and mentally weak.


     
  2. BucMan55

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    Er, I dont follow this logic. He was a big part of the W in Phoenix. He had his first really poor performance against Toronto(but its not like the rest of the crew lit it up and was playing like all-stars), and the minutes he took(mainly giving Rafer a bit more rest and Head's minutes) were better served with a player that was more than a 3 point shooter.
     
  3. TeamUSA

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    I think a little boooo at the Toyota Center this Wednesday will shake tmac a bit. ;)

    Rowdies, please, for the good future of our Rockets team.
     
  4. Rockza

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    I still don't see how can we win a game if our center who is supposed to lead us in rebounds, get only 6 in 40++ mins?!!!? This is the main reason we lost, not because TMac had an off night shooting, or that he took couple of ill advised shots when we were leading! Who else can rebound in our team? Now you want Tracy to cover for Yao's rebounds as well, did you see how many second point chances the Raptors got??

    Why is TMac get all the blame when we lose but never the credit when we win?! especially from these YOFs?? First, he has to attack the basket all the time, he has to create more for his teammates, get more assists and what the f is Yao supposed to do?????

    HE CANT EVEN GET THE REBOUNDS?! AND DON'T BLAME TMAC IF YAO CANT FREE HIMSELF TO GET MORE TOUCHES!

    This TMac hate is going way out of hand
     
  5. daddy cool

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    The second chance points were beside the point because the rockets lost the rebounding edge as a TEAM. A lot of those rebounds were long rebounds and a few that were free throw rebounds the guards didn't box out.When Yao is involved in the game as far as touches he normally rebounds the ball well.Yao is averaging 20 + points and 10 rebounds per game,You can count on Yao to rebound the basketball every game this was one of those games were he was either on the bench or he wasn't invloved in the flow because in teh beginning of the game Yao was playing defense with the two BIG TIME blocks and rebounding the ball. Yao got disinterested in the second half when he saw the individual play and attitude of his EGO driven Team.Mike james and Tracy Macgrady both back in toronto had hidden agendas mentally and physically.



    Tracy tried to do too much and the rockets got stagnant offensively and defensively in the process. When they were hitting on all cylinders in th first half they were rebounding and playing defense because it was a TEAM game and evrybody got touches and everyone was inlvoved.Come second half it was too much one on one one on five and as a result everybody got it a mode on offesne and defense to just stand around and watch. This game is a Team game that you must invlove everybody and when you don't you get a game of indivudla entertainment but the TEAM usually loses.





    The responsibility now lies in Adelman and Mcgrady. Rick adelman must discpline the team. They must establish Yao the whole game in the low post, When that runs out they must move the basketball and when the game get's tight then you have your indivdual stars takeover and use their individual skills. The luxury in having T-mac and Yao ming is when the going get's tough you have 2 mega players that can get you sure buckets when you desperately need them. Rick must convey to mac that if he does less he will actually help the Team be better and in the process he will get his just do. T-mac must also undertsand that Steve francis still has some game left and by trusting steve he will help himself and help the Team which is a win win situation. T-mac must acrifice scoring huge numbers for the betterment of the TEAM. If Tracy can understand this the rockets will go far in the post season.
     
  6. Rockza

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    Whatever is the case, you YOFs are very quick to blame TMac when he shoots badly even if the whole Team shot badly. We lost because of the rebounds plain and simple. ITS YAO's JOB, just like all the assists is TMac's. Now if only you YOFs would make as many excuses for TMac as you made for Yao..

    The fact of the matter is even in this game that we lost, Yao had a tough time fighting through the fronting or double teams. The team sure as heck tried to get him the ball whenever they could.

    Until Yao learns to play fronting defense, putting all your eggs on establishing Yao in the lowpost would be a disaster. We have seen that against many teams that actually front Yao and when JVG was the coach. You still remember last year when TMac was hurt don't you?? What was our record then even after Yao was doing great offensively?? Yea.. I thought so.
     
  7. daddy cool

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    First half of basketball Yao had no problems with the weak fronting and small guys that they put on him.He scored rather easy and he was hitting guys passing the basketball out of the double teams,steve hit a three,shane hit 2 threes,hayes got a few layups and the bench came in and kept the team work going and we had a 14 point lead at one point and 11 point lead at half time and this is all because we made shots and because we moved and shared the basketball.



    Second half we didn't move the basketball and we became stagnat offensivley. We get stagnant and we get out scored in the that third quarter by 30 points or more. We couldn't score and when we got in this funk where everything fell out the window on offense and defense.You have to get your guys interested and we were disintersted and this effected us on defense and how we rebounded the ball.



    When you don't play defense you 90 % of the time don't rebound.Our lack of execution of the offensive end created a domino effect for our whole game.
     
  8. rock8ts

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    Your tmac love is way out of hand. you beat his wife.
     

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