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[Rockets-Raptors] Collapse started after Tmac's ...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rock8ts, Dec 9, 2007.

  1. blazer_ben

    blazer_ben Rookie

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    And you're a paranoid idiot. why would he hate steve?. it's not like steve is in he's league?. why would feel threatend?
     
  2. blazer_ben

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    Wow. atleast this guy is honest. unlike the rest of the gutless fools of he's ilk.
     
  3. poprocks

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    Wow..the number of posts about T-Mac hating Franchise without a decent shred of evidence. I'm baffled and this will continue until T-Mac and Francis both come out together and say they don't have a problem. I mean..this entire thread is pandering to some hysteronics about some supposed blood feud between Franchise and T-Mac. When we hear about fist fights in the locker room or arguments posted in the Chronicle then so be it. But until then...
     
  4. poprocks

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    Larry Brown is doing nothing.
     
  5. sab504

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    There is no evidence in tmac hating steve, but today's game showed alot. Tmac's body language towards steve showed his true colors. He did not want steve to succeed. He shot ill advised shots because he can. The coach needs to tell tmac to learn how to play a team game. You notice how kobe changed for the better in his recent games? He doesn't at least makes an effort to pass now. Tmac shot about 4 shots without a single pass to another rocket. Its pathetic. All of them were misses too.
     
  6. blazer_ben

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    Kobe went 9-23. hardly great team game.
     
  7. Tha TC

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    Tracy was trying to force the issue in trying to score too much when he should have tried to be more of a playmaker at times...

    Yesterday watching the game i sat and called 3 times when T-mac was going to chuck the rock and i'll be damned he chucked it each time. Also Chris Bosh just took over there was nobody that we could put on him that could have slowed him down due to his length and mobility. Weakside defense was lacking and honestly i dont see why we didnt play Landry a little more in the 2nd half he surprized the hell out of me when he had about 4-5 rebounds in less than a minute, he needs to get a little stronger though.

    After the way the rox started the 2nd half as soon as they lost the lead i knew that they werent going to come back from the deficit.
     
  8. TeamUSA

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    I was thinking maybe it was the presence of Carl Landry that derailed us. Probably the Raptors were insulted when RA fielded a rookie with a 12 pt lead. And somehow pumped up the players to play harder.
     
  9. MayoRocket

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    Agree to an extent. I don't think they were insulted. More like Bosh was happy that he could school a rookie in his first game back from injury rather than be defended by a veteran.


    As for this topic..wow it just seems like the number of paranoid morons on this board grows exponentially every day.
     
  10. poprocks

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    Just because he took a bunch of shots on himself is no indication of a feud.
     
  11. Tha TC

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    True but usually in the beginning of a 2nd half the team starts with yao then gets tracy going but tracy was pulling some Agent 0 shots yesterday.
     
  12. A00man

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    Good lord, the conspiracy theorists are at it again. Yup, T-Mac sabatoged this game so Steve can look bad. :rolleyes:

    Seriously, some of you all need to stop watching All my Children and Days of our Lives. You guys get way too many ridiculous ideas that could only exist in soap operas.

    T-Mac is just that type of player. He takes some of those shots in a game, and a lot of times it'll help you win, but this time they didn't go in, and unfortunately we lost.

    Regardless, we lost this game because we couldn't get a damn rebound in the 2nd half, and just collapsed completely on defense. It's funny how everyone attributes every loss to something on the offensive end. This game was clearly lost because we couldn't stop Toronto, and even when we did, they got the offensive rebound and scored anyways.

    Thank god, some of you aren't coaches, or we'd revamp the team after every loss, and we really would have a soap opera on our hands.
     
  13. TeamUSA

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    RA is known for not playing rookie as well. It was a surprising move using Landry last night and let him player longer considering his body language and facial expression like he was about to throw up. He didn't look comfy up there,yet he stayed too long.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I know t mac likes to take a few quick jumpers during a game, but I don't think i've ever seen him like that, he was just taking bad shots and he NEVER got hot but continued to take them.
     
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    I would have to say I agree with you. I first realized this in the 7th game vs. Dallas. Sometimes he is out of control.

    T-mac, believe it or not, is very keen to get his own shots and be the man of the team. He doesn't just want everyone to go well (unless he is terribly bad in the game). He just wants everyone to contribute a share, and he remains the go to guy.

    Sadly, this is unlikely to change. To keep his commercial contracts going, he must maintain that superstar status. I don't blame him. It's just human nature to be selfish. Aren't we selfish to require him to give up his own game to be a team player? Yes.
     
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    I have to say that i really hate when tmac doesn´t stop shooting until he has 20 points, and then maybe just maybe he starts sharing the ball, but the fact i hate the most is the unwillingness to get his teammates going, he may share the ball with someone who is hot, but not too much, just what his coach asked. It´s quite obvious why whit T-Mac being "a great" assister still Scola´s best games came when he was not playing.

    I don´t care if the rockets have to get lesser player or what they have to package with him, but i really love to trade T-Mac for a player two players that can contributer 15 ppg on reguar basis, not superstars, but hard workers and team oriented.
     
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    Collapse started when the Rockets came out in the 3rd quarter and ALL of them played like crap on both ends of the court.
     
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    If SF3 didn't come back, what would happen?

    I think we could be 13:7 now. :cool:
     
  19. m0lson

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    I wonder inf Chicago is desperate enough to give us Deng and Hinrich... :confused:
     
  20. TeamUSA

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    In a heartbeat, I would do that. But pls no to Gordon, he's a young tmac.
     

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