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Rockets potentially trading down for multiple picks?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Spacemoth, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. hooroo

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    Tomic is signed up till 2011.

    Ibaka's agent claims he has better than first round money on offer (4yrs) from two Spanish teams and will take it.

    Pekovic signed a 3yr contract with Spanoulis's team a month or so ago stated in an interview he doesn't like the NBA.

    Asik has a 5yr contract with no buyout.

    If the Rockets are looking to replace Deke as soon as next season they're no go. Otherwise they're mostly young enough prospects to wait out their current contracts.
     
  2. PDJACK7

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    I hope we are trying to win now and are not just waiting to see what will happen this year, first round exit again. Getting players that are not ready to help now is useless and stash them over seas is stupid at this point. Make a trade for a 3rd scorer or move up in the draft to get the players that can help this year.
     
  3. Little O

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    This would not be a surprise at all. The Rockets seem to like to pick up second rounders.

    But if I had the choice of picking at 18 (trading up, if possible) instead of 31 and 34. I would definitely prefer the one player at 18 over the two at 31/34.

    I hope are ability to trade well is not held back with obsesssion over players that are on our team not named McGrady and Yao.

    But who knows maybe the Rockets can prove me wrong.
     
  4. W22_STREAK

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    Don't like this option.

    would much much rather trade up than down
     
  5. Spacemoth

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    Yeah, I totally agree with you.

    Signed,

    All the other teams that aren't the Spurs.
     
  6. wtfamonkey

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    it would be nice if we trade down to those picks

    we can grab bill walker AND devon hardin

    that would be awesome
     
  7. ghost

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    Ibaka has a buyout option after two years.

    I would like to see either Kyle Weaver or Jamont Gordon in the second round, if they don't go Euro.
     
  8. HillBoy

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    I just joined you. Trade down for what? So they can draft two project players instead of one? What's up with that? Is CD running this draft in absentia?
     
  9. Spacemoth

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    Here's my logic. The average GM has rates equal to those above for producing NBA-quality talent outside the lottery. Basically it just flatlines at a low percentage between 15-20% at each pick. Just for fun, let's add 25% to that number just for Daryl Being Daryl and not, say, Kevin McHale or Michael Jordan; in that case your odds go from 45% with one pick to

    .45*.45 + .45*.65*2 = 78.75%

    with two picks that Morey will bank on at least one real NBA talent . And as the chart can show you, 25 ain't that much different from 19 or 31 in terms of getting someone who can play around 30 minutes a game five years after they are drafted.

    Of course I'm grossly overgeneralizing here. But you get the idea. When the goal is to get a starter-quality player at picks 25-35, it is better to have two picks late than one pick early. Especially with international talent that have no issues with not playing in the NBA immediately. I see no problems with stockpiling guys like Tomic or Pekovic or Ibaka or Jawai. When the time comes, if they are good enough, we can buy them out.
     
  10. Spacemoth

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    LINK

    I keep forgetting to do this.
     
  11. Yetti

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    Batum at 25- good move for us! High IQ and knows how to play, he wont take long to develop into a serious asset. :p
     
  12. Rockets '94

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    well landry is an example of why its a good idea to lock someone up. he wasnt a first round choice but if we wouldve offered a better longer contract we wouldnt have to pay him so much now.
     
  14. ROX Dumbass

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    no point in trading down since technically we are in a "win now" mode

    second draft picks are usually only used for projects or looking for that diamond in the rough, but really the chances of that??
    projects don't help now, would be nice to pick up some high potential draft picks but i doubt our organization will do that

    then again never know.. go morey!
     
  15. RedGlare07

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    I'd prefer the Rockets trade up. With a draft that is as relatively deep as this one is, I'd like the Rockets chances of landing an impact player in the mid-rounds versus finding some value with two guys who more than likely would be added for depth--which is fine on the one hand, but I think the Rockets should be trying to find another impact starter for the future if they can get it.

    Obviously, if no such player is available at the Rockets' draft position, the next best option IS to move down.
     
  16. Relativist

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    Yeah, I'm with you on that, although I could easily have buyer's remorse if Batum is available and pans out.

    I agree with Breaker that I could see picking up Hendrix. We could then comfortably trade Chucky, preferably for depth at guard (or center).
     
  17. HillBoy

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    What's the story on his heart condition? Fact or fiction?
     
  18. saleem

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    Man,I didn't know it would be that bad.Moving down may not be that good an idea after all.
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    I'm fine with trading down. What I don't want is to pick at 25. If we trade up, we can get a prospect with a better chance to succeed. If we trade down, we can get 2 gambles that cost us practically nothing. If we trade out, we get someone who can help immediately. If we stand pat, we get a gamble that will tie up salary space for a couple years.
     
  20. thacabbage

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    My sentiments exactly. Staying at 25 is the logical equivalent of shooting a 2-pointer with your foot just inside the 3 point line.
     

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