Rockets offering deal to Brent Barry (also updates on Landry, Horry)

So it is OK to let Mutombo sit his ass on the bench until playoffs(even then he might not play), but we can't let Horry either?

Bring both if I was Morey.

 

1. We have NOT stockpiled enough talent yet. The drop off is considerable after Tracy and Yao. We still lack the role players and balance to take this team to the next level.

2. Tracy's contract will expire in two years. There would be no T-Mac to trade after two years and unless we resign him.

 

So we're signing Will Smith again

 

The timing, the content, absolutely perfect... I LOL'ed.

However, for the record, in the history of YoYao,

"It summer, people suppose (no "to") get Horry."

I won't do this again. I'll give up. But part of the brilliance was the horrid grammar.

 

TMAC + horry = the end of the universe

 

Nothing to worry about with Landry. Morey is just trying to deter other teams that were interested in him. Landry is part of the rockets future for sure.

 

Anybody who isn't concerned about Landry's knee is fooling himself. Can one of the stat guys on this board please post what Landry's numbers were from the point when he started to get material minutes until the knee injury and then the numbers from after the injury through the playoffs? They will be eye-popping, just like the dropoff in production and leaping ability that was apparent to anyone watching him play throughout the course of the season.

That said the Rockets should focus on getting Carl back at a reasonable price and then getting him healthy - even if it means reconstructing his knee and having him sit out for a year. His upside is good enough to warrant such an approach. I feel confident that if he were already under contract for next season and beyond, he would already have had some type of surgery even if exploratory / arthroscopic in nature - either right after the playoffs or potentially even during the regular season after the injury clearly compromised his effectiveness and the Rockets were without Yao and therefore without legitimate title hopes.

I believe that Morey is thinking along the same lines, but it's evident that he is hedging the risk of some other team risking a big offer to Landry that the Rockets would be loath to match given the health risk by plainly stating the team's concern in that area. Hopefully he is having a conversation with Landry and his agent along the lines of "Look, we both know that there is something going on with your knee. You had problems at Purdue and you're having problems again. We're willing to work with you and sign you to a guaranteed 3 or 4 year deal at a reasonable salary with the agreement that we will go in and fix whatever we find that's wrong, and we'll sign you to this deal before we demand further information or testing on your knee. This way, you get financial security even if your knee is in really bad shape, and we get the financial security of not making a roster killing mistake."

Ideally this results in a 3 to 4 year, $8 to $10 million deal that is a pretty good deal for both sides, where each is taking some risk (Rockets that Landry never becomes the dunk machine pogo stick again; Landry that he could have gotten more money from the Rockets or another team if he was willing to risk proving the knee was healthy either through testing or a one-year deal at a lower salary) but each side has a downside they can live with. The only thing that blows up this scenario is another team coming in and making a big offer, hence the public remarks about the knee by Morey.

The trade down and selection of Dorsey is a pretty clear indication that Morey fears losing Landry to either (a) a big offer from another team or (b) surgery on the knee. Nice to have a GM that can think big picture and execute, isn't it?

 

I'm not a betting man, but i bet i have more games on my cpu hard drive than you probably have watched in 5 years. I'm not talking about rox games either.

Do i like Barry, yes, but i think the rox should be looking at guys that can do other stuff. Barry is a situational player. If you want to upgrade luther, for barry, i'm with you, but on a real team, luther wouldnt be playing. He Barry should be signed as backend depth. I think u sign back end depth later after the prioritized targets are approached.

 

Whoever said Brent Barry is a defensive upgrade.......Bwahahahahahahaha!

Whoever said Brent Barry is over the hill though, that is a joke. Barry is a great offensive player. His 3 point shot is almost a set shot. He's not going to lose that in 2 years. He's not going to lose his bball iq. This is one old fart that can play. Barry would be a massive improvement to Luther and BJax and make both guys obsolete.

 

we have the bi-annual money, why not use it? and barry is an excellent choice for that kinda money. signing or not, this won't be a significant move. so i am all for it. but horry? maybe a couple of years too late.

 

Completely agree!

I hope we're just posturing for Horry, he's a shell of his former self. This year should have probably been his last.

He might just be a human rabbit's foot though. You've got to wonder about a guy with all those rings.

 

Maybe Morey is just enjoying his fav passtime. Screwing with the Spurs

 

Like i said, i like barry, i just think on the priority lisy, he should be down the list. The 1st priority should be 2/3 that can do multiple things including getting a shot without tracy or yao. That guy is going to need courting and attention like a hot date. Those are the guys that put you over the hump.

The guy that made a comment then made a thread out of didnt really get it. I'm not saying Davis is perfect, i think he fits what the rox are trying to do more than Barry or many other guys that have been mentioned. I mean if i told you that the rox can get a guy that can hit the 3 at 40%, atheletic, can get to the rack,finish,rebound and asst while just turning 29, what would that guy expect to make? Since he's been on some sub par teams, the rox probably can get him for about 3.5m. I would take that as opposed to chasing after a replica.

 

Agreed.

People are missing the boat on Horry. He would sign for the min. He can't play anymore, but everyone needs a goon.

This is true, though I think you slightly overrate Barry. Great set shooter, knows the game, not much else these days. For the LLE, sure, but not if it costs us Landry.

I would have my eyes in bigger prizes. I'd much rather go for Pietrus than Barry. Rather go for Posey too. Clutch shot + defense off the bench, the latter Barry just can't offer.

 

we're trying to sign barry at the lle. for those who bring up names like r. davis or petrius, etc. have gotta realize none of these can be had at 1.9-2 mils per. unless we can think of another target at that price who is clearly a better fit, i say barry is an excellent choice.

 

Brent Barry would be a good pickup for us. But would he be considered a "splash" addition? I doubt a lineup of just Tmac, Battier, Barry, and Greene at the wings is good enough next year. This team is still looking for that third scorer off the bench. Barry is a good veteran role player, but he's definitely not that third scorer we're looking for. And his age shows that he's not getting any better. It's not that I think Barry would be a bad addition to this team; I just thought that Morey had his sights set higher on star quality players. I'd be very very disappointed if Barry is the biggest signing of the off-season.

And just say no to Horry. This team already has a glut at the four with Scola, Landry, Hayes, Dorsey, and Harris. Horry doesn't have the energy of Scola anymore, or the athleticism of Landry anymore, and can't defend better than Chuck Hayes. Horry will find no playing time on this team. Didn't he struggle in the playoffs also? At this point in his career, he is just a jumpshooter.

 

What is the deal with this board's obsession with Brent Barry?

Seriously, it was bad enough 4 years ago when he was actually good...

 

I guess i dont like the priority of it. I think the 2/3 that can do some of those things the rox are missing is more important than a situational bench guy. I think that guy is more important than resigning Landry.

 

I'm concerned about the knee as well, but it wouldn't surprise me if Morey's "We’re only making an offer if he gets a more detailed examination than imaging" comment was made to scare teams away from offering Landry more than he's worth. Morey's a smart dude.

 

we dont need horry. we dont need novak. barry would be nice if he came cheap.