Rockets offering deal to Brent Barry (also updates on Landry, Horry)

If Pietrus signs for less money he'll go to Miami. He made it known last season Miami was his preferred destination.

 

Of course I agree with you what the agent said was pure hogwash. He is trying to bid up Landry, doing his job. But transparent as hell. The Rockets public statements about Landry's knee is almost as transparent, but at least their is some reasonable grounds based on Landry's history. I agree with you the likely end stage is a 3 year deal in the 6-8 mil range, but I am hoping for the low end or possibly a 2 year LLE deal (if Barry doesn't take it from us).

Then worst case scenario we still have 60% or so of the MLE left that would take us out of Pietrus and other top MLE folks consideration but could still look for great value in strengthing the bench (Mo Evans, Barnes?)

That said I don't think Pietrus is overvalued. Reletively young, solid in offense and defense, potential to get even better. James Posey & Udriah, those guys are greater risk to fail to live up to an MLE or less upside potential IMO. Pietrus is one of the more solid full to close to full MLE options.

 

i agree on brent barry cause hes a really great shooter and most importantly a 3 point shooter and landry of course we want him hes young and athletic but HORRY dude come on a person with one eye would see thats a bad move okay yeah horry did great stuff for this franchise in the past. but thats the PAST we dont need horry hes usless for example the playoffs for the spurs last season hes straight up sucked and hes gonna be taking a valuable roster spot. GET REAL MOREY FORGET HORRY AND DO A SIGN AND TRADE FOR MAGGETTE OF ARTEST PLEASE !!!

 

It's been said here before, but Robert Horry is the most important free agent acquisition the Rockets could make this offseason, because of one simple stat:

16 for 16 in getting out of the first round.

 

We are not going to get Artest or Maggette. Artest has publicaly stated he will only opt out of his contract so he can get a better one with more money. He is no chacne of taking less money to win a Championship. Winning isn't in Artest's priorities, it is making money.
And Maggette. Wow! Another injury prone scorer we can't rely on. How about we get someone we know will be healthy for 70+ games.

 

Posey, Barry ftw?

 

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...ies/MYSA070408_SpursMaggette.en.1f4e7bd9.html

 

you could imagine the pain he'll feel if we break that record of his...so he'll be yelling and motivating our players for his own streak, as more importantly, our team advancing further into the playoffs.

 

Horry returning for his final season back home in Houston (for the right deal) would be incredible. Not because he is still some amazing player -- but an Horry return has serious potential for some major Clutchness... guaranteed.

 

Artest didn't opt out. Hypothetically, we could trade for him, and he wouldn't have any say in it. So we could have him at least for this upcoming season, the last on his contract, and negotiate an extension. Again, hypothetically.

I don't see the Maloofs wanting to trade with Adelman's new team in any case.

 

there aren't many free agents that can be had who are going to propel us above the top teams, but surround Yao and Mac with shooters who can hit their shots, we got a inside outside game and also a playmaker in Mac and Rafer.

Greene isn't going to contribute much this year IMO, Dorsey is probably more NBA ready, and hopefully won't back down against the bigger stronger competition.

Barry would be ideal, cause he'll knock em down.

Mike Miller would have been perfect, but he has a trade restriction.

shooters at the wing position and at the point position.

also, if landry and scola and continue to hit their mid-range jumpers, we'll be unstoppable with a healthy lineup.

 

IF they are not good enough to continue to play for San Antonio, why would Houston want these castoffs who are at the end of their careers?We were supposed to get younger and more athletic. This makes me think that Les wants only to make CHEAP improvements!!!!

 

I would like to amend that statement to: START to hit their mid-range jumpers.

 

Barry produced in the playoffs whenever he got time. Hell, he attempted the last shot in the deciding game.

 

Horry SUX!! terrible signing. the guy was terrible throughout theplayoffs. what the hell are u guys thinkin.

 

yeah he was so terrible, ask the hornets and the suns how terrible he was.
after getting hurt, he didn't play in the laker series.

WCF <> terrible

 

Barry is/was a great player, but with age people are underrating him, I believe he is one of those bench playmakers we need seeing that he can still play as pretty good backup in San Antonio, a good passer to big men check look at the no look pass to Duncan he did.

 

Motivation from someone who's always advanced past the first round might only be what the team needs for when it comes to getting out of the first round.

Should he play for the Rockets next season, he'll still need to contribute as well like he had done in his past playoff appearances prior to 2007, his last of his seven NBA Championships he has captured.

 

That's like the sloppy seconds argument. If the first haver was the defending world champions just weeks ago (they're no Miami Heat) it might not be so bad to incorporate some aspects of that.

I'm not really convinced that Horry couldn't make a meaningful contribution and I'm definitely not convinced that Barry couldn't.

Horry, no one can accurately predict how fast a player will deteriorate although we love repeating what everyone else is saying to feel in tune with consensus. We do know that a guy who has made a career of taking a day off can take a year off when he's older for obvious reasons to most of you fogies.

You cannot say that in his last years he can't turn back the clock in the effort that he gives. The town that enjoyed Clemens fever cannot say that. Most of us would agree that his potential was dependent on the effort he gave.

Barry was productive just a few weeks ago if I remember. We pursued him as recent as months ago. His brother Jon never won the Slam Dunk contest and we hung on to him like a clingy ex gf. Jon also never had as high a 3p%. I could be wrong on that, please call me on it.

 

I guess one of the problems I have with these so called moves is just simple logic. I mean if barry and horry were so valuable, why would the spurs not even try to bring them back? I mean I think barry is a upgrade of luther, but luther isn't the reason why this team hasn't advanced in the playoffs. Hayes isn't the reason either. The team doesn't have capable scorers,period. I don't care how u twist it and make it sound like the team will be better, it doesn't matter. If the rox play the Jazz again, the rox still don't have a guard big or strong enough to guard harpring coming off the bench. They still don't have another guy to get a quality shot. Before everyone scream about how much better landry,brooks, and scola will be, what about Williams and brewer? Those guys are progressing faster than any of our young players.

That's the problem in a nut shell. Barry is a nice 17 minute a game player. He can handle a little and shoot a little. He's savvy like the other barry players and there is always a place on a roster for a guy like him. Horry is a smart, big shot taker and maker. People want to bring up his playoff record, but the players around him had as much as anything with his record. Dream, Shaq, and Duncan. 3 of the greatest pivot to ever play in the history of the nba. Throw in Kobe who is also one of the best players to play the game. I think Horry and Barry are over the top type guys. They are 9th-10th types, but if u have them higher than that playing minutes, ur going to get inconsistent play.

I think once again the Rox are a step behind and claim they're trying. Very Astro like.