Rockets offering deal to Brent Barry (also updates on Landry, Horry)

IF WE ARE GOING TO GET A LEGIT THIRD SCORER WHO CAN CREATE FOR HIMSLF THEN LES IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR HIM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER
If Les won't pay then we can expect more or less what we have been getting the last 10 years. Morey needs to think ABOUT A BIG TIME PLAYER.
ARTEST is a Coach 'A' Player.

 

any contracts that will go their way will be the vet min. Great addition if and only if we need roster fillers.

Only player that i want from SA will be finley.

 

Posey is not an old guy,though all of them played well. Barry could help a bit,but he played in only 31 games in the regular season.

 

Thats probably why Morey said Novak is very valuable to the rockets. Could Novak, Head, 2009 1st round pick, and some expiring contracts be part of some sort of trade for a player like a Hedo Turkalou (Hedo is just an example)?

 

Novak can be a part of a minor deal unless someone wants to get rid of a player.A Hedo type is an example of a valuable player who is most likely not going anywhere.

 

Yetti, but by signing Barry and Horry on the cheap ie. LLE and league minumum, would help set the rockets up to making a trade in getting that big time player they covet so much. Signing Barry and Horry does not limit the rockets in getting that big time player, but would only help. Novak, Head, Hayes, 2009 1st round pick, 2009 Memphis 2nd round pick, and expiring contracts could all help in getting that missing piece they need. People are looking at players in free agency for immediate help right now as if the rockets can't win a regular season game in the upcoming season. The Big picture is getting the assets in place to make that big move when the timing is right.

 

The LEE allows up to 1.9 mil in year 1, 2 mil in year two.

I can't fathum Landry getting more than 60% of the MLE (about 3.5 mil). Personally, anything much more than 6 mil over 3 years is a gamble, most of the MLE for a 24 year old rookie who played 18% of his teams minutes in a backup role (even if a very effective 18% of minutes) and with an injury history, is whack.

I like the Sasha move (I had him an JR Smith the top restricted SGs we might consider). I'd rather pay him more of the MLE than Landry. Someone mentioned Sasha has had "only one good year", well, he is younger than Landry. I have made fun about a lot of things about him, but he is a very solid prospect to be a good role player for some time.

Besides, I think the Lakers will match. Make them pay to, drive up Sasha's cost to them. As long as we make an offer to Sasha before someone else makes an offer to Landry, if we lose Sasha, we can then match Landry.

That said the Lakers have Early Bird rights. They can sign or match and MLE offer for him without costing their MLE. Theoretically they could offer an MLE to Landry and offer an MLE type contract for Sasha.

Of course I think the Lakers have no real interest in Landry. They have Gasol and Odom to man the PF, and VR, Walton and Turiaf (who they qualified an offer to) already squeezed for minutes also competiting for back up PF minutes. The last thing the Lakers will do is add another forward, unless the guy a major talent upgrade to what they have (e.g., Artest, Carter, in a trade).

And Nash the year before.

Got to hive Horry credit for tranforming himself. Used to be a lengthy gazelle of an SF, than because Big Shot Rob as a PF with range, and now he is Cheap Shot Bob/Rick Mahorn lite. The Rockets could use a guy like that, they need a guy willing to be mean if needed to win a game.

If Landry leaves, I'd have a vet min roster spot for Horry.

 

http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2008/07/free_agent_frenzy_hardly_but_f.html

 

There is no Sasha moves. All the rumors about Landry's demise are dead off.

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Agent says Lakers' Bynum wants maximum contract extension
12:01 AM PDT on Tuesday, July 1, 2008
By BRODERICK TURNER
The Press-Enterprise

The Lakers extended qualifying offers to Vujacic and Turiaf on Monday, which allows the team to establish a right of first refusal.

If Vujacic, whose offer was for about $2.6 million, and Turiaf, whose offer was for about $1.3 million, sign an offer sheet with another team, the Lakers can match the offer and retain them.

Both Vujacic and Turiaf are seeking long-term deals and hope their agents can come to an agreement with the Lakers.




http://www.pe.com/sports/basketball/lakers/stories/PE_Sports_Local_S_web_lakers_01.4713233.html

 

please let Carl Landry walk, we can use that MLE money to sign a 3rd scorer like Corey Maggette... Corey Maggette will be a great fit for this team, he used to be coming off the bench, so the Rockets can keep their core of guys still as last season (remember Morely does think our starting lineup was good enough to play against with any team in West).. but we would still need sign and trade for a backup PG like Jannero Pargo?

Alston/Pargo/Brooks
Tmac/Francis/Heads
Battier/Maggette/Novak
Scola/Hayes/Dorsey
Yao/Deke/Woods

 

Landry has more upside than Magette. Maybe he's not better today but he'll be better later.

 

who cares about future... the Rockets are in Win-now mode.. how many years could Tmac and Yao wait??? maybe this might be their last season to play together, if they still cannot get out of the first round, this team will headed to another direction by 2009 season.....

 

Would you guys get upset if we trade Scola and keep Landry....i doubt we would trade scola but what if we did

 

He is way a longshot to be better than Magette, but Magette would never sign for an MLE so he is irrelevant to the Landry discussion.

BTW Poprocks the qualifying offer just means the Lakers have a right to match those two (Sasha & Turiaff) if another team offers a bigger offer, just as the Rockets do with Landry. It doesn't mean all 3 guys will return. (though out situation with Landry is trickier because we don't have even Early Bird rights and thus have to use some or all of our MLE or LEE to match)

 

Yes, because as Scola can play center he is more valuable. If we resign Landry and assuming Dorsey gets a spot we should move Hayes.

 

I'd be all about that. Like you said, it won't happen, but I for one would be pleased if we could get a semi-recognizable name back.

 

Isnt Scola a great third scorer?

 

No. I think Scola will improve more in year 2 than Landry will, but I still wouldn't call him a great 3rd scorer. I'd call him a good to above average potential 3rd scorer, if he improves as expected.

In today's NBA a great 3rd scorer is capable of averaging high teens while exploding for 26+ more than a few times a season. Ray Allen average 17.4 ppg, scored 26 or more points 6 times and 20+ points 23 times (all regular season). I don't expect Scola to be quite that high. But he will be good.

I think if you could get another player of Scola's caliber offensively, you don't really need that 3rd great scorer. Shane barely squeaked over 10 ppg 2 of the last 3 years - just barerly - but aside from his rookie year where he got a lot of PT and shots, he has never been a true double digit scorer. Rafer scores by necessity, not because he's great at it.

I would prefer keeping Scola than Landry, personally.

 

How many teams have a third scorer like Ray Allen?
THere isnt a lot. Lakers last year had Odom and he was averaging like 15ppg, just like Scola. Sure getting a third scorer like Allen would help, but it s hard to get one.
Now our big need is the backup sg. So that T-mac could rest.

 

well, west playoff teams...

2)New Orleans...Peja. 3)San Antonio...Ginobili. 5)Utah...Okur. 6)Phoenix...Marion/Shaq. 7)Dallas...Terry.

Houston & Denver are the only playoff teams who dont have a 3rd player who would be classified as a bonafide scoring option.