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Rockets = No class

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by paulnhbtx, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. joegoroxy

    joegoroxy Member

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    Tracy is not a Aston Martin any longer!

    you fail to realize that Tracy is not the player he once was. the game has got faster, the tempo quicker, the competition better. unless he is willing to buy into the system he will cost us games.

    Me mac is playing for him self right now.
     
  2. Summer Song Giver

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    I see what your saying and you have convinced me that were I the coach, I would play the Aston Martin 48mpg/every game and sometimes with only two of the other Hondas on the court with him at one time, because after all, it has to be all about the Aston Martin all the time.
     
  3. JSizzle

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    My problem with this statement is we have played well, but not flawlessly, we have lost 13 games. If we have one of the top 3 or 4 records in the league it makes a little more sense. We are currently playing Ariza close to 40 minutes a night, which is too many for any players, but especially him. If we acquired Chris Paul in a trade, would we try and play him 7 or 8 minutes to see how he fits in to the team, since we are playing so well. Great teams have made adjustments with new players on the fly. There are some growing pains, but the idea is in the end it is worth it. I have faith in the Rockets, but I am just not sure I understand the logic behind 7 or 8 minutes for more than a couple games. Play him to a legit about to see how things will work, or don't play him at all.
     
  4. tmoney1101

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    They are superstars right now.

    Tmac was superstar 4 years ago.

    Do you get how that works?
     
  5. t-mac_#3_SG

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    I love everything about the Rockets, except for the way they're handling Tracy's situation.
     
  6. Voice of Reason

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    One of the years that Tracy won the scoring championship, his team only won 21 games. His GM openly accused him of not being a team player, not attending practices, not making those around him better,and not being part of the organization.
     
  7. joegoroxy

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    they are playing tracy 8 minutes a game because they don't want him hurting himself and making himself untradeable like he did last season!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    T-mac was benched because he sucks but still thinks he should be able to jack up the ball 20 times a game.
     
  9. txppratt

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    i have been on tmac's side for the most part...

    BUT one has to wonder what other parts of the story we're missing. there has to be more to this. tmac being a crybaby and leaving when being told he would not get more minutes? ...ok i buy that... we all know tmac well enough that you wouldn't put it past him...

    but does it change anyone's opinion if tmac was promised more than this? like in a previous discusion with morey or adelman?

    it makes more sense if tmac storms out on the premise that he is not getting the playing time he was promised. either way i'm sure there are some crossed wires in all of this - some misunderstanding. possibly tmac thinks he was promised THIS when morey and adelman say THAT?
     
  10. rmoreno

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    I couldn't have put it any better. This is the only OFFSEASON that he has decided to dedicate a lot of time to preparing for the upcoming season, uhhhhh why, CONTRACT YEAR thats why!!!!!!! He could have been an all time great but he is too LAZY. I hate Kobe Bryant but I won't deny that he has one of the greatest, if not the greatest, work ethic in basketball. And thats is why he has continued to get better and remain UNinjured, while Mclady has consistently gotten worse and is always on the injured list.
     
  11. pippendagimp

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    if keeping/playing she-mac means having class, then i want the rockets to be a cross between carlos boozer and chris andersen :eek:
     
  12. Vanilla Rice

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    I can see why you would think that the Rox aren't being classy.

    But in all honesty, they set a plan for him at the beginning of the offseason, and haven't really wavered from that plan. At least they aren't saying one thing one day, and something else the next day. They have been consistent with their message from the very beginning, so I don't see how that's not being classy. Just because they aren't giving him what he wants doesn't make them a classless organization.

    On the other hand you have McGrady who has shown that he will pout if he doesn't get his way. He may be in shape, but that doesn't mean he is in game shape....and he has also shown that he won't do what he needs to do to get into game shape. I have yet to read a single report that has Rockets management raving about the work he's putting in to get back.
     
  13. paulnhbtx

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    V. Rice - Great name and Great post!!

    I guess me just being a fan would really like to see him have one more run....

    You can't deny his talent.
     
  14. EssTooKayTD

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    But of all the players that know say practice is much harder than game speed. In practice they are basically always running. In a real game there are timeouts, free throws, tv timeouts, etc.

    Or you could be from the camp that says the only way to get into game shape is to play in the games. 8 mins a game ain't gonna cut it, would be my guess. Sooo...yeah I don't know what to think.

    The whole ordeal has been stupid. I miss Yao, and I do miss seeing McGrady play actual minutes.
     
  15. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    IMO both McGrady and Adelman have come off looking like babies. Adelman more so recently, however Adelman wins so... its an embarrassing fiasco, not gonna lie about that one.
     
  16. tmac2k8

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    I'm sorry but these posters who are saying "he hasnt shown in those 8 minutes anything that should justify him more playing time" that is such a short amount of time, what do you expect him to do? Shoot 5 - 7, 4 assist, 5 rebounds, have 12 points after coming back from a 1 year microfracture surgery? I agree with the Management's decision to play him only 8 minutes a game and slowly increase from there because we dont want him getting hurt again but I dont agree that the reason why is he hasn't shown us anything good enough in those 8 minutes. Everyone should have known and expected he wasn't going to put up numbers in just 8 minutes. There are plenty of 8 minute stints where lebron and kobe don't score and miss alot of shots, doesn't mean they are trash bc they do play better through out the game.
     
  17. Vanilla Rice

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    Question is, does Mac go all out in practice? We don't know the answer to that question. My guess is he does not or else we'd either hear about it from the coaches, players, reporters, or Morey himself.

    In games, I didn't see Mac playing tough D, crashing the boards, or diving after loose balls to prove he deserves more minutes. Other than some quick hot-shooting vs. the Clips, he's shown less than J. Taylor has in far fewer minutes.

    I see nothing wrong with the Rox organization wanting him to PROVE he deserves more minutes. Scoring titles from his ORL days prove absolutely nothing to me.
     
  18. Vanilla Rice

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    True, but they are probably playing balls out for those 8 minutes. I haven't seen McGrady do that a single time during his return.
     
  19. jev5555

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    2 wrongs don't make a right
     
  20. Voice of Reason

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    Eight minutes a game plus practice is more than enough time for a good coach to determine if someone fits in with their plans. Coaches judge players all the time by as lot less then 8 minutes a game. Last year James White averaged 2.8 minutes. Pops Mensah-Bonsu averaged 3.3.
     

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