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Rockets Need To Fire Stone!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Imanimal, Feb 8, 2025.

  1. Terror-Trips

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    Contender? You are such an extremist. Rob Williams would immediately help Rockets flagging defense, specifically rim protection, switching + rebounding. Rob Williams would help the Rockets WIN games. Period.
     
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  2. astrosrule

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    Yup. Every move made should be with the goal of maximizing title odds. I’m not willing to give away any meaningful assets for something that doesn’t improve our current or future odds. Expirings. 2nds, sure
     
  3. Terror-Trips

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    Then you live in LaLa-Land. Waiting for an Ant Edwards, Luka Doncic, Shai Gilgeous Alexandar or Nikola Jokic to become available is completely unrealistic. Big name stars are not the only way to build championship teams, how are you even a Rockets fan with this mentality?
     
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  4. astrosrule

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    That makes no sense, every rockets title featured exactly a guy on that level.
     
  5. Terror-Trips

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    Hakeem Olajuwon was drafted not traded for.
     
  6. rocketchamp

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    The Rockets have had one of the quickest turnarounds in the NBA. Other organizations WISH they had the successful rebuild Stone gave us. Yet you're whining about Garrison Mathews lol. GM are judged by RESULTS and Stone's results after 4 years speak for themselves. San Antonio did the same tank we did yet nobody in SA is whining about them losing 2-3 years ago. Ungrateful azz Rocket fans
     
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    Ya, hence me being a massive supporter of tanking. Point is every rockets title featured a tier 1 superstar, none were won without one.
     
  8. Terror-Trips

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    This is an inflexible mentality, circular and unrealistic. There are multiple proven ways to win championships. Head in the sand and wishing upon a star is not a strategy.
     
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    We'll see, that's my belief based on the history of the sport. Could always change, it did happen once 20 years ago with the pistons and i guess you could argue boston did it where they only had the 5th or so best guy.
     
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    Rockets were missing 4 players in the rotation, 3 of them were starters and 1 dude is the 6th man. The only other top seed who had this many injuries were the Grizzlies and they sanked to the bottom of the West before JJJ and co. came back.

    And even then, the goal for this year is only play in. Somehow Stone needs to be fired because the team outperformed expectations. SMH
     
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    He hasn't done sh"t except pick players that are considered Best Player Available

    You always over hype the dude like he is Jesus GM....but you don't know sh"t.

    So shove your whinning up your @$$.. Nobody wants to hear about your g** infatuation
     
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  12. rocketchamp

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    You do realize he PUT us in a position to get the best players available idiot lol. Part of rebuilding is acquiring/dumping salary, acquiring draft capital, acquiring expiring contracts etc..You're so obsessed with hating Stone you can't give him credit for things that's part of his job description lol
     
  13. ApacheWarrior

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    You do realize that the Thunder rebuilt just as fast by picking BPA.....does Stone work for the Thunder? No

    I can train a f*cking monkey to pick BPA. So what you f*cking idiot. Jump off Stones nuts.
     
  14. Terror-Trips

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    Do you understand strategic growth, QBR or evaluating critical KPI to assess productivity + update strategies based on real time achievements to leverage trending opportunities? Fixating on the play-in goal before the start of season without adjusting to the actualized + ongoing critical success factors is an entropic mindset + a surefire way to run your business into the ground.
     
  15. rocketchamp

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    Dude it's not Rocket science. The rebuild was a huge success & Stone was the master mind behind it. You can train a monkey to pick the BPA, but you can't teach a idiot fan to know what it takes to be in position to get the BPA. Be grateful we're winning & have the best coach in the nba
     
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    Dude I'm done talking to you.

    You keep tooting Stones horn, but it's not a horn.....it's his ****
     
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    None of the stuff you mentioned has anything to do with goal setting. The way NBA works you give people contracts and they stick to it, they dont change it midway otherwise it defeats the purpose of having a contract in the first place.

    In Fox's contract for example he would be eligible for a supermax extension if he made the All star team. The Kings wouldnt go to him after he made the All Star team and tell him "Hey man we are changing your supermax goal to being the MVP due to strategic growth and QBR".

    Imagine if you work in a sales company and the company keeps increasing your sales targets if you hit them because of strategic growth and QBR. Does that make any sense to you? Employees would quit and say the company isnt fair.

    Thats why there's a term called "moving the goal posts". It's not supposed to be a good thing. If you as the organization agree something is the goal before the season you arent supposed to change it and suddenly put out more demands because your team hit that goal. Doing this actually makes people work less hard cuz they know no matter what they do they wont hit the goal if it keeps changing. Your moving goal strategy actually is the entropic mindset and will lose employee buy-in as they realize the company is a liar and will change anything just to maximize output.
     
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  18. Terror-Trips

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    You are mischaracterizing the purpose of QBR and how KPI are derived from CSF. Your sales analogy is off the mark because this not about moving goal posts as it relates to employee performance (which is an element of KPI) but maximizing opportunities as it relates to the company's overall profitability.

    Simple question, if the company achieves it's budget goals in the 1st quarter, does it shut down for the rest of the year? Of course not. It would be preposterous to assert otherwise.
     
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  19. roslolian

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    But the Rockets arent shutting down as well so I dont see what your point is supposed to be. My original statement is "People want Stone fired because his team is outperforming expectations". Your post is a response to that telling me the goals should be moved.

    If your post isnt about moving goalposts why are you even arguing with me? The goal was just either make the playin or be in the playoffs. The Rox are already a lock to reach that anything else is just a bonus. People getting mad at Stone just dont have a clue and dont realize the Rockets are ahead of schedule.

    Nobody said the Rockets will disband and shut down after they hit the goal so why is your analogy even relevant?
     
  20. Terror-Trips

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    You have this backwards, you entered this as a third party and posited concept of moving goalposts without even understanding the points of the discussion I was having with another poster.

    I never said or advocated Stone to be fired, that is an extremist stance imo. But not trying to maximize productivity after initial pre-season productivy over-actualized early in season is simply wasted opportunity. Progress is not always linear and opportunities missed could prove costly.
     
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