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Rockets need SOME midrange game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by htwnbandit, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. Andrew Wiggins

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    Other than hardens step back, lin's pull up and runner, and parsons turn around jumper i don't recall seeing much mid range game from this roster other than maybe garcia. We dont have someone like mcgrady who can rise up and shoot at will or make turn around mid range jumpers when he wants, so most of our mid range game will have to come from the pick and roll.

    The thing is dwight never sets screens. This is why i think the mid range game has really gone down this season.
     
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  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    BuT they iZ so inneffienTZ becUZ MoRey said so!

    Seriously, anybody that has played basketball knows that the midrange is the most versatile shot in the game. There is a reason that just about every great player was solid in that aspect. It is a shot that stretches all the way from the inner circle to the 3pt line. The brand of basketball dork elvis tries to imprint on to this team will never win a championship. Now when the rockets need midrange shots and have to take them, they can't run off of screens and whatnot because they never did it during the 82 regular season games. I hope this puts a fork in the statards.
     
  3. Easy

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    43 points on 28 shots is very inefficient. ;)
     
  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    Even though they were 43 points, they were on inefficient shots. I actually read that in the game thread...thats how hardcore Morey fandom has become.
     
  5. rcketsfan1

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    Maurice (Mo) Williams >>>>>>>> Jeremy Lin

    Our best player, James Harden, is playing against a 'Bruce Bowen' type of player, and we need someone off the bench to play well against the 'Bruce Bowen' type player's backup. Unfortunately, Mo Williams is WAY BETTER than Jermy Lin. Garcia has tried to guard him but was been unsuccessful probably because he is 5 inches taller.

    This series is not over yet, but the Rockets need to get a 'Shane Battier' pretty soon because this team definitely needs one.
     
  6. jsonic6

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    I love Morey as much as the next homer, but he is straight up delusional if he thinks we can contend without a mid-range game... Like I said before, this is not the damn D-League.
     
  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    Spurs putting on a clinic with their midrange game and using it to get nice clean looks from 3.
     
  8. drowsy12

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    Zach Lowe would school your ass, man. He made the point of emphasizing that people who say things like this don't understand analytics. That no one should see the Rockets loss as an argument against analytics or Moreyball because Portland uses analytics too. The Blazers shoot a lot of midrange shots and are one of the MOST analytics-dependent teams in the league.

    Analytics are more complex than just 'no midrange shots' - analytics tell Portland that LMA is best when he takes those midrange shots. and what midrange shots he should take.



    FACT: EVERY team in the league knows about the general inefficiency of midrange shots.

    Btw, Spurs are master of OPEN midrange shots - which are very good in analytics
     
  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    When have I specifically called analytics out? Read the posts in this entire thread before you open your mouth. I feel that I regurgitate the same nonsense to every guy in line with the classic parrot response.
     
  10. Zergling

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    What's hilarious about this stupid narrative the Morey haters are trying to conjure up is if we acquire a midrange shooter in the offseason, the narrative changes to Morey admitting that his analytics are flawed as if he specifically acquired players that can't shoot midrange.
     
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    i think it's a cop out when people say we don't have the players to take these shots. it isn't an excuse to not develop a system that utilizes open mid range 12-15 footers or develop players so they improve in that area.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rockets?src=hash">#Rockets</a> have hit an NBA record 71 3-pt FG thru 5 games. That bests the old record by 10 (2013-14 GSW &amp; 2009-10 ORL): <a href="http://t.co/CKbwPywpcu">http://t.co/CKbwPywpcu</a></p>&mdash; Basketball Reference (@bball_ref) <a href="https://twitter.com/bball_ref/status/529833761626943489">November 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    This thread offends Ariza.
     
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    man that sounds awesome, but i still think we need diversity in shots, it was bad times last year when people go cold from the three
     
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    We just need a playmaker - can't see us going all that far with just Harden. And by playmaker I don't mean ball dominate type of guy - just some one who can create for others when Harden is on the bench.
     
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    The midranged shot is the worst shot in basketball. By far. Statistical analysis over the last 20 or so seasons has proven that point. Why in the world would anyone want the Rockets to take more midranged shots is completely beyond me. It seems almost delusional. The R&R drive and kick out to the three point line is by far the best offense in the NBA. I believe we have seen multiple examples this season.
     
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    Because good defenses can take away the three point like and protect the paint. Then the rockets have no answer
     
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    lol

    I saw some pretty good playmaking when Harden sat tonight. Maybe you were watching another game?

    The advantages of the 3 pointer is so high that the mid range should be banned.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    You can't do that at the same time. Much harder to defend the paint and the 3 point line than the paint and the 16 footer.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Another interesting stat: of Ariza's 69 points so far, 0 of them are from mid-range. All lay-ups and 3's.</p>&mdash; Bryan Mears (@bryan_mears) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryan_mears/status/529653351580180481">November 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  20. TheRealist137

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    Blazers a very mediocre defensive team did it last year.
     

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