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Rockets/Moochie NOT CLOSE in Negotiations

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jeff, Aug 2, 2001.

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Dan Fegan is...

  1. The devil

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  2. The devil's servant

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  3. The devil's love slave

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  4. The supreme ruler of the evil universe

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  1. KALIKULI

    KALIKULI Member

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    Plague has swept in the Rockets locker room . Linda Blair is in a verge of destroying the Rockets chemistry!

    Knowing that Rockets has a lot of money to burn, Doctor Evil became greedy and I think he wants payback for what he lost from Dreams supposively part of his compensation. I wish he choke on his diner tonight!!:mad:
     
  2. TedRuxpin

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    Since when do role players get paid more than 2.5M a year?
    How much did Mario Elie get paid in 95 (keep in mind inflation)?:confused:
     

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  3. JayZ750

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    Mo Taylor gave more of himself every night than nearly everyone on the team. The simple fact of the matter is, he is not a good rebounder and is not your athletic PF type. He did, however, try just as hard as the next guy, and, if you dont recognize that, then you didnt watch/go to enough Rockets games last year. I had the opportunity to attend a number of games, and, especially live, it was plainly obvious that Mo considered the Rockets day to day success just as, if not more important than his own success as an individual player. Considering we are all b*tching about how players are being a-holes and wanting more money, etc, etc...(even the sacred Moochie Norris, the great team player we can not let get away???), Mo's chemistry with the team is very welcome and I consider him a top priority. He is intrigal to the team.
     
  4. Thanos

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    Oh no. Here we go again... for chrissakes!

    :rolleyes:

    I REALLY hope Mo is signed tomorrow and we get Marc Jacson ASAP if that is the plan, and then we can offer whatever is left to Moochie and Shandon because i sure as hell can't believe we are going over all this mess again.

    If Moochie and Shandon think they are worth more than what's left, show them the door and sign Colson and maybe Felipe Lopez...

    nuff said.

    I simply REFUSE to let Fegan play us for fools another couple of weeks!:mad:
     
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  5. MadMax

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    I REALLY like Moochie...but come on! Backup point guards are a dime a dozen....and if someone else is willing to pay him $4.5 million, let's go back to the same CBA team we got Moochie from and see what they've got now! :) It's not like we HAVE to have Moochie Norris. We took that approach a couple of years back when we all thought we HAD TO HAVE Shandon Anderson. Guess what....we were wrong!
     
  6. barbourdg

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    Anderson is like a Stacey Augman cloan, know around the league as a defensive specialist with no consistent offense. NBA.com played the last Chicago-Utah matchup the other night, and I was watching Jordan dishing Anderson all night, he fell for every fake - it was pretty funny!

    The point is the Augman has been signed and cut/traded so many times that he understands his role on a team. Anderson has been public with the notion that he will be a SHOOTING STAR this year. So he wants the Rockets to fork out 5+million and take his word that he will be a SUPER STAR!!!

    Question on Moochie, why in the HE***L did he hire Feagan in the first place. I GUESS MONEY, duh!!!! I bet that the Rockets will be the one, not returning phone calls, this time. Now that Fegan has Sc***d us in exploring all of the other FA's available. He has also Sc***d his own clients, who's only option for the BIG PAY DAY!!!! is Houston!!!!!! I think that the Hakeem situation will taint those negotiations with CD & Les!!!!
     
  7. crash5179

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    I have faith in Moochie that he will not let Fagen ambush his chance to stay in Houston. I think he loves playing with Francis, Cat and Mo. Mooche will sign for between 2 and 3 mil and Mo will get around 6 mil. I think both contracts will be around 4 years. Of course I could be very wrong.
     
  8. barbourdg

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    I thought that pops (or somebody) stated the the Rockets would only offer Moochie around (or less) than 1 million. How many reserve PG's in this league get paid 2-3 million?
     
  9. SteveFrancis3

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    What team would actually offer Moochie more than us? I thought Dallas was a threat to steal Mooch, but they supposedly just signed Khalid El-Amin, which I think gives them more than enough point guards.
     
  10. Surfguy

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    Right on JayZ750, I'm with you! So, Mo wasn't a great rebounder. How the hell can you be disappointed in his performance last season? The guy fit right in on offense and you could tell he had it going on...even if his rebounding numbers were low.

    I seem to recall that sweet stroke jumper of Mo's got us going on many a night where, without him, we would have been down in a hole crawling our way back from a 1st period deficit. We all know how the rest of the Rockets like to start off slow. Not Mo, though!

    Mo is the man. Don't go raggin on Mo. He did alot for us. He obviously proved his worth which is why we are not going to let him get away.

    Mooch...get your money grubbin butt over to Mavs land . Your good but not that good. Is it alright if we pay you in pennies? I'll gladly fork over my penny jar. You had some good games but...geez man....you weren't $4 million good. Build some performance incentives into his contract. If he thinks he's that good, then he should have no problem maxing out his contract incentives.

    Surf
     
  11. barbourdg

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    Is that the rookie that the Celtics had playing in the summer league? If that is, I would take him in a NY minute over Moochie (at 2-3 million). The guy I saw playing on ESPN was hustling for every loose ball, stealing & shot lights out. The Celtics were talking about how much he deserved to be on their team, but they had a problem to many guaranteed contracts. (MIGHT BE THE WRONG GUY, but the name sounds similiar).

    TELL FEGAN HELL NO!!!!!!!
     
  12. SteveFrancis3

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    Yes, El-Amin was the pg for the Celts summer league team. He did great in the game that was on ESPN vs Indiana, but no way I would take him over Moochie even considering the contracts.
     
  13. davo

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    Why are all you guys so upset and surprised?

    If Fegan was not trying to get the max for all his players then there would be something wrong. If the Rockets are stupid enough to pay too much its there own fault. The players and agents have every right to pursue as much money as possible - I certainly don't expect Moochie to accept less money because of some home town discount.

    Fegan is just doing his job.
     
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    Khalid El-Amin got cut from the Bulls.

    Moochie Norris could start for the Bulls.

    Norris is more than just a back-up for us. He's our 6th man, and he is the best player on the team at running the fast-break. He's knows the offense, and gets along well with the team. He also will probably see significant minutes when the Rockets go to a small line-up, which I can see happening a lot this year.

    Besides, he's got b****in' hair.
     
  15. Sonny

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    I dont know how much more of this sh*t I can take. If we lose Moochie then I am gonna put a contract out on Fegan...


    Fegan - "Why is there a dead cow's head in my bed?" :mad:
     
  16. haven

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    Davo:

    That's not true. Everybody understands an agent trying to get as much money as possible from for his clients. But Fegan is developing a repuation for being dirty.

    The Jazz absolutely refuse to deal with him because of how he handled the Shandon Anderson situation. All the members of the organization insist that he completely lied to them on numerous issues. He basically said, "My client will re-sign if you do X, Y, and Z." The Jazz did these things, then Fegan made different demands, which the Jazz met. Then Anderson left. I don't like the Jazz; but they have good management, and I believe them.

    Agents like those in the SFX group play hard; they squeeze your balls. But at the same time, I think there's an understanding that everyone is going to be honest, or at least, not lie outright. Fegan doesn't even seem to have these minimal ethics.
     
  17. rockHEAD

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    More money for Mooch, means more money for the devils love slave! This what all this boils down to... not how much or what Mooch wants, but how much money the devils love slave will get!!

    arghhhh

    rH
     
  18. E.J. Tucker

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    Lets put Anderson and Norris on hold while we do the contract talks and sign Mo., then give an offer to Anderson and Norris to entertain while we interview FA to fill those spots. If we sign a fa first then the contract offers will be vold. Let Fegan work his magic somewhere else, Utah may be right on this. We can get by without Hakeem and we darn sure can get by without Anderson and Norris. They want Fegan let them have Fegan.
     
  19. B-ball freak

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    Davo,

    You are right about Fegan just doing his job. However, the way he has gone about this seems, to me, a bit underhanded. All indications are that the Rockets had preliminary agreements that were merely pending due to Hakeem's status. Fegan then pulled the rug out since now they have more cap space. I'm sure his stance before was "give Mo less" so that he can get his clients more. Now, with Hakeem gone, he thinks his other clients are entitled to the rest of the space.

    How much do you want to bet that Fegan knew how this would play out a long time ago? He was going to go after the rest of our cap space whether Hakeem took it or not! And how much do want to bet that there is nothing that fueled the fire that is Hakeem's pride more than Mr. Fegan. I hate Utah, but there is no denying that Fegan screwed them. He also screwed his client with the hard line stance they took. This hurts to say, but Shandon would have been much better off staying in Utah on a short term contract. I say, since we are about developing talent and hoarding cap space, that we tell Fegan to take a flying leap. Once again, his clients will be screwed and maybe learn a little bit about what he is all about. A backup 1 and a Backup 2 is what we are talking about here. The funny thing is that we were already prepared to overpay out of loyalty to these players. There are still serviceable FA backcourt players out there.


    I implore you, Rockets, to make your stand now against all that is evil in Mr. Fegan!
     
  20. barbourdg

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    I thought that was his biggest weakness! He would run down the floor and pull up, and not finish the break. But I agree that Anderson & Moochie are last priority!!! especially with Feagan!!! Taylor has to be first, bring in a replacement center and then make Feagan a take it or leave it offer!!!

    If anybody read the new team page by Murphy (of the Chronicle), I think he said it best - that the Rockets might want to keep enough cap space to go after one of the FA's next year.
     

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