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Rockets met with Tyler Johnson

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Cashmoney, Jul 2, 2016.

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  1. Vivi

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    Can they match every figure to go over the cap since they only have early bird?
     
  2. malakas

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    As far my cba knowledge tells me, No.
    I think we can also PP him.

    But in the end I wouldn't pay him 10 mil.
    He's alright and I like him. But not worth 10 mil and I'm not sure he's a starter in this league right now. At least a good one.
     
  3. BimaThug

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    Yep. It'd have to be a Lin/Asik-type deal. The "good" news is that the Rockets would only have to pay Johnson $5-6M in each of the first two years of his deal, but the cap hit would still be averaged out over the life of the contract.

    If Miami flinches at the thought of losing Dwyane Wade in a salary cap crunch, Tyler Johnson may be obtainable.
     
  4. finsraider

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    I like him. Seems like a better place to invest than throwing big contracts at mid-tier vets or Harrison Barnes.

    Maybe something like 3 years, $34 million, but structured like this....

    6, 6, 22

    To Miami - it would hit their cap like the above schedule.
    To Houston - it would hit as 11.3 over each year
     
  5. Williamson

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    I don't even know who this guy is. And I know who Solomon Hill is.
     
  6. heypartner

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    Yes, it's the Arenas provision. You can't steal an Early Bird RFA by outbidding the home team. The first year salary is limited to the mid-level exception, so that the home team can match it with their Early Bird Exception. But in year three, the offer sheet can have nearly an unlimited raise in it, so the player gets paid.

    The Lin contract.
     
  7. PeterKingX

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    Who???

    Breaking news: Rockets are interested in every scrubs.
     
  8. Vivi

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    Yeah, i think there's no way in hell Pat is going to match a Lin/Asik contract, but is that the only way to sign him? Wouldn't a regular 10x3 be enough if at some point they don't have that exact cap space but let's 5 million?
     
  9. malakas

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    he's a guy on the Heat who played very well at the start of the season.

    Coach Nick made even a video about him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FogQq1O5LzI

    after that he didn't play that well but then again I didnt' follow Heat THAT closely.
     
  10. J.R.

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    The teams that find the Tyler Johnson's, not the ones that pay them, are the ones that succeed long term.
     
  11. Vivi

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    Oh ok so, even if they have not enough cap space, they can still match an offer as high as a MLE, is it correct?
     
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    I remember him playing quite well before he injured his shoulder and was out for the season.
     
  13. finsraider

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    But they have to have cap room or an exception to match it. The first year is limited to the MLE, but if the team doesn't have the MLE or sufficient cap room to match, then they can't. That's why we were so careful with preserving our entire MLE last summer in order to ward off teams that might go after McDaniels.

    In this case, Miami has to use cap room to resign Whiteside, so they do not have the MLE, which means they would need enough MLE level cap space to match him.
     
  14. malakas

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    Here again, embedded. Watch this to see a breakdown of his game.
    [youtube]FogQq1O5LzI[/youtube]
     
  15. CantGoLeft

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    It would be nuts to offer him $10 mil. Played 68 total regular season games(1466 minutes), averaged 21.6 minutes, 1.8 ast to 1.3 tov. 7.4 pts. Per 36 that's 3 ast to 1.9 tov and 12.4 pts. Good shooter, decent rebounder and defender but not really a playmaker.

    Clarkson has at least proven himself over 2 full seasons and he's making $12.5 mil.
     
  16. heypartner

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    Yes, but more accurate to say that the offer sheet cannot exceed the MLE in the first two years of salary. It *is* an MLE offer, until yr three when it can jump with a nearly unlimited raise. Saying "As high as" doesn't hammer home that the MLE is the ceiling of the offer sheet's first two years.

    So, the home team can always match it, because the CBA only requires that you match the first year with exceptions or cap space...and they own the Early Bird exception.
     
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    I'm talking about Tyler Johnson and other players who qualify for an Early Bird Exception. You are correct about the the Non-Bird players.
     
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    My son was raving about Tyler Johnson last year, so I paid a little attention to him. Reminds me a bit of a better shooting, slightly taller Nick Johnson.

    He can shoot and finish, but is also a good defender and hustler. Pairing this combo guard with Harden is one of those under radar moves that could turn out very well for us. Morey went out and got Lowry before he sizzled, Tyler could be that kind of guy.
     
  19. Sooner423

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    I like this guy. PP gives us a shot.
     
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    Combo guard with decent size, athleticism. Can penetrate as well as shoot 3s.
    High offensive efficiency on a relatively low usage. A bit turnover-prone (not in the raw #, but on a per possession-used basis). The kind of guy that Morey would bet on.


    Kind of a Dragic/Lin type. But who knows what level he will reach.
     

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