really? thats awesome...so we would still have our room exception for another player. If we get camby and miller for the min we would be set on our bench with depth, experience, AND youth. man our team is going to be sick We still have all our draft picks to trade for a 3rd superstar, and our room exception. we will have our full exceptions next year and we are not even paying the tax this year...so it puts off clock on the severe tax payer pentalties another year. This maybe the best managed team in sports form a full spectrum point of view. NO-hOMer for real
I don't think this is true, because didn't Scola get 3yrs 13mil+ deal from the Suns? Which is 4mil+ per yr.
Same here. I just hope if guys like Covington, Young or Williams show real promise in the preseason and are clearly better than him the FO will have the guts to cut him.
Where is this at in the CBA? I don't think Miller is going to get anything besides a minimum offer anyways. But I sure haven't read anything stating that they can only get the minimum. Reality is if they were going to get above the minimum, most likely there will be a bid while they were being amnestied and if they clear waivers then they don't make a nickel more unless they get a salary above what they were making, which if that were the case, they wouldn't have been amnestied in the first place...they would simply have been traded. So, unless you prove me wrong, I don't think the CBA states that the amnestied player has to take a minimum contract. By deduction we can see that they most likely aren't going to get more than a minimum contract after they clear waivers. Because they won't make any more money. So why should a team pay them more than the minimum?
What I said may not be correct as I've now found two conflicting sources and and CBA FAQ doesn't address it specifically.
Yup. I've been wondering this myself the past few weeks. I've seen reputable writers come down on both sides of the fence on this (whether the second contract adds to Miller's initial deal or merely subtracts what Miami owes). Maybe someone can ask Coon on Twitter...
OK I have it figured out now. If claimed on amnesty waivers the waiving team gets to reduce the salary owed to the player by the amount of the bid. If the player clears waivers and becomes a free agent, he is treated like a standard waived player. This brings the "set-off" provision of the CBA into place. Miller can technically sign for whatever he wants and the Heat would be able to reduce what they owe him still in accordance with the set-off provision. The set-off provision states the team that waived the player can reduce the amount they must pay him using the following formula: (x-y)/2 New Salary=X 1 Year Vet Minimum Salary=Y So it actually does benefit Miller to sign for more than the minimum. Edit: More specifically in Miller's case with Houston Room Mid-Level: $2.5 million 1 Year Vet Minimum: $762,195 So: (x-y)/2 x-y= 1,737,805 /2=868,902 Take 2.5 million and subtract 868902 and you get about 1.6 million that Miller would net above his original salary. Assuming I did all the quick math correctly.
Nice work. That could explain why this process is taking a little while. I doubt Miller would base his decision on that, but I could see his agent advising him to take a few days to "think" and see if the team of his choosing blinks. (That and the later you go in free agency, the less pressure there is from the agent community to quickly wrap up negotiations.)
Yes he will. I think the Grizzlies and Thunder both have their mid-level available still so they can offer more than we can to his benefit. So this is likely going to be about money, though I doubt either of those teams is eager to spend anything more than a couple of million on broken down Mike Miller.
Yeah he may be trying to wait and see if OKC or the Grizz are going to give him Mid-Level money. It's possible the reason the Rockets have "snuck up" is that we are offering the room mid-level while the others are only offering the vet's minimum.
Ethan J. Skolnick @EthanJSkolnick about 10 hours ago -MIAMI HEAT columnist for Palm Beach Post. Hearing that Memphis and Houston -- not OKC or Denver -- now best positioned to sign Mike Miller. Still fluid
Nice find, Skolnick is extremely plugged in with Miller. Though his response to someone (after that tweet) isn't ideal... <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/brianfleming24">@brianfleming24</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CamOnGriz">@CamOnGriz</a> looking that way. Memphis in lead, but I'd heard that Houston wasn't ruled out</p>— Ethan J. Skolnick (@EthanJSkolnick) <a href="https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick/statuses/359897181223780353">July 24, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
That it would. Though if Miller is as ring-driven as he says he is, I like our chances if Memphis is the main competition. The Grizz are struck in that perpetually good-not-great range, and I don't see how they get out of it.
